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Al Czervik 12-19-2021 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by Gspeed (Post 3338359)
you’re doling out a lot of misinformation.

A common theme here.

Gspeed 12-19-2021 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 3338380)
A common theme here.

One correction of my own. The pilots aren’t the only union as the dispatchers are also unionized. Unfortunately it won’t let me edit the bolding in my previous post to reflect this.

chrisreedrules 12-19-2021 07:15 AM

I know this is a sweeping generalization and all… But I’ve been a commuter my whole airline career. I regularly Jumpseat on AA flights and have only run into 2 odd balls out of hundreds if not thousands of flights. I’ve jumped on Delta a couple dozen times and I’ve had either odd or downright awful experiences 5 or 6 of those. Most seem to be centered around the 75/76 fleet. All the times I’ve been on the jump of the 717, 73, or old Mad dogs it was a good experience. So I dunno, Delta sure seems to have some odd balls in proportion to other carriers.

AAL24 12-19-2021 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by Machsp (Post 3337917)
Woke culture? pandemic illusion? you must be a joy to fly with.

lots of guys like that at AA. Thankfully most are 63+ years old. You should have seen the outcry on the AA pilot message board when United announced they were going to dramatically increase opportunities for women and minorities.

majorpilot 12-19-2021 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 3337141)


You, sir, win the Internet today! Thank you.

Gone Flying 12-19-2021 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 3338394)
I know this is a sweeping generalization and all… But I’ve been a commuter my whole airline career. I regularly Jumpseat on AA flights and have only run into 2 odd balls out of hundreds if not thousands of flights. I’ve jumped on Delta a couple dozen times and I’ve had either odd or downright awful experiences 5 or 6 of those. Most seem to be centered around the 75/76 fleet. All the times I’ve been on the jump of the 717, 73, or old Mad dogs it was a good experience. So I dunno, Delta sure seems to have some odd balls in proportion to other carriers.

ATL 757/767 seems to have some odd characters (including one who made a FB post shaming an FO for calling fatigue.) . I think base and/or longevity is a better predictor of outcome on that front. All the DTW and NYC guys I JSsd on and flew with were chill. ATL can be hit or miss.

CBreezy 12-19-2021 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by Gspeed (Post 3338359)
Holy cow. I’ve been at D for 6 years and nearly everything you wrote is wrong. I bolded the only accurate stuff. D ain’t perfect but you’re doling out a lot of misinformation.

Right. I've been here the same and I've never once heads a guard dog. Ever. And lots of condemnation of the fools who try to police guard. Many guys don't even listen anymore.

nene 12-19-2021 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by Gundam (Post 3337877)
Get tired of winning and restructure/go bankrupt. Joint ventures/outsourcing does suck, but it seems like it is coming to AA too with the north east alliance. United is the only place as far as I can tell that isn't doing that. If the travel market stays strong and AA gets its debt controlled in the good times I think it will be fine and a great place to work. It could certainly happen, I just think people should consider the the possibility. Of the 3 choices for regionals I considered, 2 no longer exist. I got very lucky. The airline industry seems to favor a conservative growth strategy at every level. The best job security is of course to just fly boxes.

Too big to fail, implies leverage in DC and massive influence over the economy mostly only banks have. If only one airline actually needs to declare bankruptcy it will be allowed to happen. It will miss growth opportunities and the contracts will certainly not be industry leading afterwards.

For our govt, "too big to fail" means the political fallout, be it either $$$$ donations to reelections or significant voting blocks will be so effected that "action" that the govt (party in power) must take action.

crewdawg 12-19-2021 05:46 PM

I only had a short stay AAL, but I thoroughly enjoyed my time there. I've now have been at DAL now for 7 years and I'm extremely happy here. I haven't seen all that many of the stereotypes I had always heard about DAL..then again, I'm not based in ATL lol. If I had lived close to any one of the AAL bases, I'd have happily stayed there. Either one would be a great option, so pick whichever one allows you to sit short call from home, or has the easiest commute.

Route66 12-20-2021 03:04 AM


Originally Posted by sanicom3205 (Post 3337141)


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How's your commuter gig working out, "kid"? I guess I can post childish pictures too!!!


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