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Old 03-01-2022, 07:30 PM
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I am also not optimistic. Something far below what people expect could get to a vote by the membership. We are being sold on a short term limited issue contract not an entire rewrite of the contract. I have no idea where that idea came from. 11 of the board members (majority) could send something to a vote. I personally think it will get shot down. Posters above want 20% raises. I do too but that isn’t going to happen. Morale is still getting lower and lower. We turned down overtime for holiday trips. Check pilots are quitting in droves. We constantly get reassigned. We sit on hold for hours waiting for hotel rooms at 2am. Our new CEO was just quoted in an article about cutting costs and spending less money. 2 days later he got a pay raise that doubled his pay. That is not going to go over well as the word of this spreads.

We have a new trip trading system coming out that has to be mutually agreed upon and the Union is against it. The company is putting it out anyway. They are doing simulator sessions from 1-5am which is allowed in extenuating circumstances. The Union disagrees but they are doing it any way. A day before we bid for training they came up with an idea of sending pilots two months early. Not one thing has been done about these three recent developments.

This upcoming summer is going to be an absolute nightmare. Every summer is but this one really is. I feel there is absolutely no idea by management how bad it is. The breaking point is approaching rapidly.
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Old 03-02-2022, 05:58 AM
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A day before we bid for training they came up with an idea of sending pilots two months early.
This seems like the biggest head scratcher. Going forward it is obvious that every last minute of simulator usage has to be maximized for efficiency, they increase the CQ footprint. Makes zero sense.
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Old 03-02-2022, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BFMthisA10 View Post
This seems like the biggest head scratcher. Going forward it is obvious that every last minute of simulator usage has to be maximized for efficiency, they increase the CQ footprint. Makes zero sense.
Are you referring to a 12 month cycle vs 9?
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Originally Posted by sanicom3205 View Post
Are you referring to a 12 month cycle vs 9?
Kind of. If you send someone two months early, you're creating a mathematical 10 month cycle. I would have expected the opposite, for folks to be going right on time, with a percentage of grace months added in to minimize training footprint of the CQ crowd. What am I missing?
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Old 03-02-2022, 07:27 AM
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I believe it's to get people done early prior to the busy summer months.
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Old 03-02-2022, 07:40 AM
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Not being able to real time trade into trips with fewer days is going to wreck a huge number of people's QOL. I don't think that little tidbit is widely known about TTS Realtime, especially with the more senior dudes.
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Originally Posted by BFMthisA10 View Post
Kind of. If you send someone two months early, you're creating a mathematical 10 month cycle. I would have expected the opposite, for folks to be going right on time, with a percentage of grace months added in to minimize training footprint of the CQ crowd. What am I missing?
Well your base months stays the same, so it doesn’t effectively make a 10 month cycle in any other year but the current year. If they look at the next two months and they seem extremely busy comparative to the current month, they can alleviate issues in the future by getting people through early. Next year they can still send them during their base or grace month it’s really never a negative for them. It just adds some flexibility for them to get people through early or late when they have openings
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Originally Posted by biigD View Post
Not being able to real time trade into trips with fewer days is going to wreck a huge number of people's QOL. I don't think that little tidbit is widely known about TTS Realtime, especially with the more senior dudes.
Maybe an unintended consequence will be that it’s tougher for pilots to reduce their schedule and pick up premium. Less people picking up premium will hurt the company. I’m not anti PM, but until the schedule gets stressed continuously, we aren’t going to see improvements.
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Not being able to real time trade into trips with fewer days is going to wreck a huge number of people's QOL. I don't think that little tidbit is widely known about TTS Realtime, especially with the more senior dudes.
But but but they’ll have first crack at it!

is this 100% confirmed? I read the language and it wasn’t exactly clear to me
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APA is barely competant when it comes to jumpseat issues and you expect these clowns to come up with a quick and reasonable TA? lol, that's cute
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