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Old 04-05-2026 | 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB
that site has too much info/analysis, it’s nuts

pilots always finds something to complain about….
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Old 04-05-2026 | 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Fichael80
…..or use this one which is awesome
and free

https://www.pilotseniority.com
it’s pretty close but I’m not sure where it’s pulling data from. Must be on effective dates. Shows I can’t hold a status I’m going to, so it’s a little off but overall very close.
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Old 04-05-2026 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by gearup1006
it’s pretty close but I’m not sure where it’s pulling data from. Must be on effective dates. Shows I can’t hold a status I’m going to, so it’s a little off but overall very close.
I saw what you describe, I believe the main data outside the “preliminary award analysis” is based off the previous final award data - and will likely be updated to the final award here soon.
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Old 04-05-2026 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by gearup1006
it’s pretty close but I’m not sure where it’s pulling data from. Must be on effective dates. Shows I can’t hold a status I’m going to, so it’s a little off but overall very close.
it shows the most junior person in my bid status is senior to me. Weird. Unless it is using real time/relative seniority numbers.
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Old 04-05-2026 | 01:06 PM
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That is a neat website, I notice that it defaults to 3% growth but is that realistic?
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Old 04-05-2026 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mostpeople
That is a neat website, I notice that it defaults to 3% growth but is that realistic?
Go to Jetnet - Fleet and look at the delivery schedule. Until those are deferred or they announce schedule reductions it's realistic.
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Old 04-05-2026 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mostpeople
That is a neat website, I notice that it defaults to 3% growth but is that realistic?
on a 16,000 pilot list that means we’d end the year at 16,480. I guess that conservatively means hiring 1200-1300 ish this year after retirements?

I’d say that since COVID on average the list has been expanding at least that much annually. Hopefully we stay on track.
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Old 04-05-2026 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Easyflier301
on a 16,000 pilot list that means we’d end the year at 16,480. I guess that conservatively means hiring 1200-1300 ish this year after retirements?

I’d say that since COVID on average the list has been expanding at least that much annually. Hopefully we stay on track.
It's closer to a 15,000 (active) pilot list so 3% is 450 per year. Ergo hiring 1200 with 750 retirements.
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Old 04-06-2026 | 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by tallpilot
It's closer to a 15,000 (active) pilot list so 3% is 450 per year. Ergo hiring 1200 with 750 retirements.
Assuming those 750 retirements are all “active” pilots.
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Old 04-06-2026 | 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by mostpeople
That is a neat website, I notice that it defaults to 3% growth but is that realistic?
Historically the total revenue for of the airlines has been about 1% of GDP. Historical growth of GDP has been about 3%. Assuming no significant changes in regulations (single pilot?), scope, work rules, etc. 3% is a reasonable number over a long enough period of time.
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