Originally Posted by Round Luggage
(Post 3572105)
Sure they will need to dig into this to see what we can learn but the news is really sensationalizing this. They are reporting 1000 ft separation which produces a 3000 foot accelate-stop so mathematically they had the power up for a few seconds before a low speed abort. 🥱 system works.
Irony that we just rolled out new procedures that affect some of the most critical moments of flight with zero training outside of an iPad bulletin? |
Originally Posted by Round Luggage
(Post 3572105)
Sure they will need to dig into this to see what we can learn but the news is really sensationalizing this. They are reporting 1000 ft separation which produces a 3000 foot accelate-stop so mathematically they had the power up for a few seconds before a low speed abort. 🥱 system works.
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There but for the Grace of God Go I, but a couple questions one of which was already asked above.
Do AA 777s have RAAS? Also, does AA not have an iPad or similar with live ground mapping? Personally I can't imagine taking off and flying to London after this incident. |
Originally Posted by Sunvox
(Post 3572337)
There but for the Grace of God Go I, but a couple questions one of which was already asked above.
Do AA 777s have RAAS? Also, does AA not have an iPad or similar with live ground mapping? Personally I can't imagine taking off and flying to London after this incident. |
Originally Posted by Shakinthefat
(Post 3572377)
A possible Class A incident and you continue on duty will be something the NTSB will follow up on. This flight crew needed to call a time out, taxi back and remove themselves from the flight. I wonder if AA allowed them the fly the return trip back to the US.
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Originally Posted by Shakinthefat
(Post 3572377)
A possible Class A incident and you continue on duty will be something the NTSB will follow up on. This flight crew needed to call a time out, taxi back and remove themselves from the flight. I wonder if AA allowed them the fly the return trip back to the US.
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Originally Posted by Shakinthefat
(Post 3572377)
A possible Class A incident and you continue on duty will be something the NTSB will follow up on. This flight crew needed to call a time out, taxi back and remove themselves from the flight. I wonder if AA allowed them the fly the return trip back to the US.
Certainly hope they honestly assessed their own fitness afterwards, but a pilot error does not make you unfit in and of itself. |
Originally Posted by ny797
(Post 3572263)
Irony that we just rolled out new procedures that affect some of the most critical moments of flight with zero training outside of an iPad bulletin? |
Originally Posted by Sunvox
(Post 3572337)
There but for the Grace of God Go I, but a couple questions one of which was already asked above.
Do AA 777s have RAAS? Also, does AA not have an iPad or similar with live ground mapping? Personally I can't imagine taking off and flying to London after this incident. |
METAR at the time was for 10 miles vis and ceilings broken at about 2200 feet. I’m not sure how the Delta crew could miss a 777 taxing across their runway but I’m not here to pass judgement.
I got clearance to taxi across runway 11 in MSY a few years back. I looked to the right and saw a light twin (Cessna 310 possibly) over the threshold. I told the captain to stop, which he did (and I was ready on the brakes). I told tower that we were holding short for landing traffic. After a few seconds of silence he responded with American 123, hold short runway 11. Point being is that anyone can make a mistake and if the crew or controller don’t catch it, then it can have deadly consequences. |
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