American Defers Delivery of 787’s

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Quote: United was the first to remove DC-10 engines and pylons in one piece with an overhead crane. Continental, like AA, used a fork lift. Record doesn't say if CO or AA talked with each other or who went first. 175 engines were changed and 88 were changed with the 'one step' process.

Page 25-32. Paragraph on page 31 with an * has the count details.

http://libraryonline.erau.edu/online...s/AAR79-17.pdf
Other's did it, too. And the point is what? That it was OK? Cost saving at all costs?
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NB vs WB
Using a 321-XLR on flights to Europe will also hurt our profit margin. The 321's wont be able to carry the cargo that the 787/777 can which helps our profit margins and our profit sharing bonus's. The other is will be slot allowance airports. AA may only be allowed one or two slots to some airports, there by limited the city pairs for that airport. We maybe only allow limit flights due to the slots so then how does AA expand and compete with other carriers? What good is only one flight from BOS to MAN but we can't add ORD, PHL, CLT to MAN? I would rather have a 787/777 on that one flight vs 321. It will also be interesting to see what our customers think of flying on a 321 across the Atlantic. If the do not by tickets on use and chose our code share partners or competitors, then the 321-XLR is not the plane for Europe.
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Quote: Using a 321-XLR on flights to Europe will also hurt our profit margin. The 321's wont be able to carry the cargo that the 787/777 can which helps our profit margins and our profit sharing bonus's. The other is will be slot allowance airports. AA may only be allowed one or two slots to some airports, there by limited the city pairs for that airport. We maybe only allow limit flights due to the slots so then how does AA expand and compete with other carriers? What good is only one flight from BOS to MAN but we can't add ORD, PHL, CLT to MAN? I would rather have a 787/777 on that one flight vs 321. It will also be interesting to see what our customers think of flying on a 321 across the Atlantic. If the do not by tickets on use and chose our code share partners or competitors, then the 321-XLR is not the plane for Europe.
I guess JetBlue and United, who are or plan to fly the XLR across the Atlantic, are idiots as well. Oh, and United flies a 737 across the Atlantic already. You should probably post on their forum to tell them what a dumb idea that is.
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Quote: The overrides stack so probably. We'll see how this plan works out. Like all pilots I want to fly one trip per month and spend most of it in the bunk while getting paid Cadillac per month rates. However I also want my airline to be profitable and stable both during booms and busts. Perhaps a combination of wide and narrow bodies for long haul is the answer. All we can do is wait and see.

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Thats not what all pilots want. It sounds like a terrible work experience. I actually enjoy flying. I don’t like being on an airplane in any capacity other than at the flight controls. I’m also not a unicorn. I work with lots of like minded pilots. You’ll never get competition from me for a seat on the WB.

At the end of the day I have zero input on how this airline structures its flying. All I care about is profitability and the sustainability of my employment. If they parked every WB I wouldn’t care, likewise if they parked all the NB and only flew international I would equally not care. I would however enjoy my job less.
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Quote: I guess JetBlue and United, who are or plan to fly the XLR across the Atlantic, are idiots as well. Oh, and United flies a 737 across the Atlantic already. You should probably post on their forum to tell them what a dumb idea that is.
The Azores?
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Quote: The Azores?
Yes, correct…
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I think the 321 to Europe is a good deal for AA. I believe it will serve markets that wouldn't make sense on a WB. I wouldn't want to fly it oceanic but I think it will see a lot of interesting city pairs.
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I can honestly think of worse scenarios than flying a 321 3-man to botique destinations across Europe.

People forget the 757 had the same cabin cross section as the 737 and we flew that transatlantic as well, and yet no one *****ed. The 767 also had a crew rest seat in first class with a heavy curtain. It wasn't as cool as the triple's bunk but wow talk about beggars being choosers.
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Quote: The rest of us got the joke. It apparently went over your head.
I was so honed in on what I was thinking of in the first place. The massive cafeteria at SV6 that I was just at. 1000’s of sqft unused and just a small portion of that kitchen in use.

Now, 100m according to the accountants on something like the iron kitchen… I could definitely see that being a possibility.
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Quote: I think the 321 to Europe is a good deal for AA. I believe it will serve markets that wouldn't make sense on a WB. I wouldn't want to fly it oceanic but I think it will see a lot of interesting city pairs.

I agree.

I think the 321XLR will be a way to develop markets that don’t have enough volume to support one our WB’s. Hopefully it will also be a way to support markets that are dropped in the winter for Europe. Maybe we can also serve thin routes to South America in our summer.

Either way those 321XLR’s are coming and the 787’s are delayed so I hope it works.

Hopefully the pairings are out and backs. Otherwise it could be a nightmare. Earlier someone already eluded to my worst fears for having this plane in the mix.
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