GrossNavError

All those trips out of phl can be done double pilot. I would also say that the company can and will build those Ireland trips into a typical four or five day. There is nothing stopping them from doing that. KEF to PHL is probably even shorter and it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibilities to send you on to a Hartford overnight after you came in from a short European flight. They do that all the time with south American and Anchorage.

Those xlrs are also to replace the 321ts so they will be doing domestic flying.

the point I'm trying to make is that if you think you're gonna be able to have the same lifestyle on the Airbus xlr as the 787 you're in for a rude awakening. Thats the bad thing about these xlrs. They take a once great section of the airline and chip away at it. No more sitting reserve doing 1 trip a month like people on the WB do, you bid reserve on the nb and you get used all the time.

Stop getting excited for these things.

Beech Dude

Ok, ok, yeah. I'm picking up what you're putting down now. Yeah, I agree. Not WB life, not any shape, form or fashion.

I know they're probably wanting 2 pilot ops, but they've already got the FB for PHL/320 coded in FOS so here's hoping, haha.

TheRaven

the 3rd crew member to Europe will be pretty standard for most trips (as it is on the 787) , due to the HBT departure time and FDP limits...a 2 pilot flight would cancel for any delay, as the FDP limit is often 9 hrs for 2 pilots on the return leg. You might get away with 2 pilots for Reykjavik or Lisbon, but anything longer will have 3, as it did on the 757.

AA717driver

In before the XLR's go the way of the 321T's. Flagship seating will soon be 20 marginally First Class seats with 170 coach behind the curtain. AA only knows how to cut costs.

hercretired

Bob Crandall famously removed one olive from First Class salads and saved $100,000

Yes, AA knows how to cut costs.

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna3073562

AllYourBaseAreB

321T’s are all still flying, basically the legitimate full life cycle of that interior once replaced… Airways managers were surprised they made money and kept them. The stupid cost cutting came in thd form of reducing the FAs from 6 to 5 with Covid. God help the noob FA on rsv that gets put on as purser on a transcon dinner service with a full first cabin…

Regionalsuck

Exactly. These things are horrible for (the pilot group). The good WB Europe flying will be slowly eroded away and ruined. Enjoy your optimized 320 reserve schedule with our new contract flying every reserve block domestically then getting a POS (5-day) Europe with crappy domestic flying on both ends that finishes at 2359 on your last day. Followed up by an email stating the good news of the remaining 787 orders being deferred until 2039.

ImSoSuss

Yep, if we're going to be a NB airline can we at least get paid as well as SouthWest is about to get paid? Think you can swing that APA?

Arado 234

So much for APA's QoL.

Any west coasters here? How are the Hawaii trips? Out and back or build into four/five day trips?

thrust

I read elsewhere that AA 321NEOs and XLRs will still be the highest paid NB pilots on the planet, still higher than SW TA rates.