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val venis 05-31-2025 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by tallpilot (Post 3916481)
You will not be home when you need to be quite often for the first 2-3 years at best.

I wouldn’t say this is entirely accurate. I was able to get every day off I wanted…rolling 3 day blocks, weekends, etc, after about 80% in base. Matter of fact it was so good I continued to bid reserve well into the 50% number. Now up until 80% it wasn’t great but I drove to work so not a big deal for me. This was Airbus in a very senior base. Might be different now.

-vv

JulesWinfield 05-31-2025 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by val venis (Post 3916494)
I wouldn’t say this is entirely accurate. I was able to get every day off I wanted…rolling 3 day blocks, weekends, etc, after about 80% in base. Matter of fact it was so good I continued to bid reserve well into the 50% number. Now up until 80% it wasn’t great but I drove to work so not a big deal for me. This was Airbus in a very senior base. Might be different now.

-vv

Was this before or after the new reserve system went into effect in September of 2024? The game has changed for the junior pilots.

Cloudkickerr 05-31-2025 12:36 PM

To the OP. Mid 80% in seat in a junior base. I bid SCR, flew 4 days this month. One of those days was a single First Class DH home. Granted I'm on a short hook, but I have no real daily events outside wrangling small kids. So live in base, and bid Short Call. After about a year you should be doing good. You want to commute, be in a senior base, or both? Be ready for the abuse.

flybub 05-31-2025 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by Milton99 (Post 3916271)
Hey guys I currently have a CJO and was told to expect a class date in late summer. My question is when I'm on reserve how easy is it to drop or trade a reserve day once I'm awarded the days and call window? Both for short call and long call. I know reserve gets you 17days awarded and the call out times vary but that's about it. I have 2 kids so flexibility of my schedule is a big consideration when bidding. Thank you.

Welcome aboard. As with any company, seniority is everything. I’ve been SC reserve in a junior base and only worked a few days, but I’ve also been on the other end and worked everyday but 1. You will get used, that’s just the nature of the beast here. The reserve system here benefits the senior folks so you just have to get through it. Get a group chat going with your classmates and hopefully you all can swap reserve days. It’s doable, but it’s a pain. Welcome to the fAAmily.

piranhawc 06-01-2025 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by val venis (Post 3916278)
Welcome to AA we are happy to have you. The answer is “it’s a b*tch”. Not only do you have to manually find a trade partner but then you have to manually call scheduling to make the swap. Can’t drop days unless it comes out of next years vacation. We have some of the worst IT I’ve ever seen. Incredible that SkyWest has a better system. end rant. Having said all that the reserve system is great if you’re senior. Unfortunately you’ll be worked quite a bit until you breach that 80% in base number. The good news is our worthless association was able to keep 85 hours max so you’ll never be worked more than that.

Anyway, welcome aboard.

-vv

I ran around at my regional trying to find printers to print the 40+ page release. We did quite well recovering from the Crowdstrike outage. Delta did not. If Skywest is your only view into IT, you have an extremely limited viewpoint. I was a Network Engineer at multiple jobs. There are places that go down for longer than we ever have.

There's a big difference between management not letting us do things like trading trips and the system not allowing it. This is a management problem, not a programming/technology problem, and if someone is telling you it's a technology problem, they are lying.

DFWwannabe 06-01-2025 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Cloudkickerr (Post 3916500)
To the OP. Mid 80% in seat in a junior base. I bid SCR, flew 4 days this month. One of those days was a single First Class DH home. Granted I'm on a short hook, but I have no real daily events outside wrangling small kids. So live in base, and bid Short Call. After about a year you should be doing good. You want to commute, be in a senior base, or both? Be ready for the abuse.


whats it like being junior in a senior base? Like DFW compared to MIA?

tallpilot 06-01-2025 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by DFWwannabe (Post 3916823)
whats it like being junior in a senior base? Like DFW compared to MIA?

Exactly. It's massively different and airframe matters too. My experience on the Bus in CLT was 1% upward movement every month when I got hired to complete stagnation (literally 0% relative movement) since the first hiring pause. I was a line holder now I'm back on reserve. Will it be ok in a year or two? Almost certainly. Does it suck ass now? Yes. Just like it does for Suss because of his particular situation.

If the OP wants 'flexibility', (s)he should bid a junior airplane in a junior base and move there, otherwise expect several years of NOT being off needed days at least several times per month. Hopefully a bunch more airplanes will show up and rapid movement will return but it's absurd and frankly terrible advice to suggest that everything will be roses. It's still probably a very good career move to come here but it isn't 2022 and what happened then should not be communicated to new hires.

JulesWinfield 06-01-2025 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by tallpilot (Post 3916826)
Exactly. It's massively different and airframe matters too. My experience on the Bus in CLT was 1% upward movement every month when I got hired to complete stagnation (literally 0% relative movement) since the first hiring pause. I was a line holder now I'm back on reserve. Will it be ok in a year or two? Almost certainly. Does it suck ass now? Yes. Just like it does for Suss because of his particular situation.

If the OP wants 'flexibility', (s)he should bid a junior airplane in a junior base and move there, otherwise expect several years of NOT being off needed days at least several times per month. Hopefully a bunch more airplanes will show up and rapid movement will return but it's absurd and frankly terrible advice to suggest that everything will be roses. It's still probably a very good career move to come here but it isn't 2022 and what happened then should not be communicated to new hires.

Yeah, I mean joining the bottom of the list during a hiring pause doesn’t lend itself to schedule flexibility, maybe for a long time.

Cloudkickerr 06-01-2025 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by DFWwannabe (Post 3916823)
whats it like being junior in a senior base? Like DFW compared to MIA?

Not good movement. At all. Life has choices. I moved to a junior base for this reason. I recommend the same for everyone. Moving isn't easy. Trust me I know, but it was worth it. I enjoy my juniority, and you can to. Even in a senior base, AA is a great place to be--but you're gonna get worked on reserve.

ClncClarence 06-01-2025 02:13 PM

As a new hire or junior pilot prioritizing QOL I think it’s either LGA or MIA 737 at this point. Hold your nose and tough it out. It is what it is.

The bus is WAY more senior in every base. MIA for example is at 30%+ difference for same DOH and I think DFW is the same.

Might have some leveling after the current vacancy closes but who knows.


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