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Adlerdriver 09-22-2012 08:32 AM

How are things under the bus?
 
I apologize if this has been posted. I don't have time to read through the entire thread.

I'm sure this surprises no one, but I just wanted to share the line of BS your customers are being fed. Straight out of the playbook.

Here's an excerpt from an email I received today as an AA exec-platinum. Email signed by:
Suzanne L. Rubin
President
AAdvantage Loyalty Program

At American, we always do our best to provide our customers with a smooth travel experience. You may have seen recent media reports about American's operational challenges or even experienced a service disruption yourself. Whatever the circumstance, I am truly sorry for any inconvenience to you. I also want to let you know what's going on and assure you that we stand ready to help.

Prior to recent issues, American has been running an extremely good operation, with reliability measures at their best levels in many years. The recent delays are due to the increase in maintenance write-ups by our pilots, many right at the time of departure. Our maintenance teams are responding appropriately to such reports, which may cause interruptions in our schedules. I know you will agree that nothing is more important than running a safe and reliable operation. Ensuring the safety of our customers is always our highest priority.

We are taking several immediate steps to improve our service during this period. We are proactively reducing the rest of our September and October schedule by approximately one to two percent. These schedule adjustments will enable us to provide our customers with more reliable service while minimizing impact to travel plans. Additionally, we are increasing staffing of maintenance, reservations and airport personnel to offer you more flexible travel options.

andreas500 09-22-2012 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by jabone (Post 1264342)
This is what management just sent to out.

FYI - for those interested, I have flown many many miles on numerous airlines, I am not a pilot, and I have always been interested in the aviation industry.

That being said, I received the same email from AA a couple of days ago, and instantly recognized the BS of putting it on an employee group that is critical for safety and operational excellence. So, I sent the following email to AA Advantage Customer Service:

I have been a significant business traveler for more than 20 years, and have nearly 4 million miles on American over the years. Similar on United, and Delta, and Northwest prior to their merger with Delta.

I hated traveling United for years because their employees were just fed up, leading up to and through their bankruptcy. Congratulations, you are now in that category.

As a Platinum for life member on Advantage program, I received the email from Suzanne L. Rubin, President for AAdvantage® Loyalty Program, and wish to share my perspective.

I also have years of dealing with mission critical professionals that are proud of their work. I am dismayed by the treatment AA has given their Flight Attendents, Mechanics, and frontline CS personnel, but especially Pilots, leading up to and in this Bankruptcy.

Do not believe you can send an email and have all your customers believe that the recent operational problem stems from "maintenance write-ups by our pilots, many right at the time of departure. Our maintenance teams are responding appropriately to such reports, which may cause interruptions in our schedules". Many of us know better, and I certainly hope that AA does not believe that! The root cause is the treatment AA has given it's Pilots, and other critical employees, for years, but especially during this bankruptcy.

Fair treatment and honest negotiating goes a long way to happy satisfied employees - the only way to have happy and satisfied customers.

So, for what it is worth, there are customers flying with you that both recognize and support your importance to AA and to successful business travel. Keep up the efforts to fight against a system that is stacked against you, but that CAN NOT succeed without you. Stay united!

LittleBoyBlew 09-22-2012 02:57 PM

^^^^^^^^
Its good to see that educated/seasoned customers get it.
Wouldn't it be fantastic if AMR received a few thousand letters like this one..

lolwut 09-22-2012 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by andreas500 (Post 1264924)
FYI - for those interested, I have flown many many miles on numerous airlines, I am not a pilot, and I have always been interested in the aviation industry.

That being said, I received the same email from AA a couple of days ago, and instantly recognized the BS of putting it on an employee group that is critical for safety and operational excellence. So, I sent the following email to AA Advantage Customer Service:

I have been a significant business traveler for more than 20 years, and have nearly 4 million miles on American over the years. Similar on United, and Delta, and Northwest prior to their merger with Delta.

I hated traveling United for years because their employees were just fed up, leading up to and through their bankruptcy. Congratulations, you are now in that category.

As a Platinum for life member on Advantage program, I received the email from Suzanne L. Rubin, President for AAdvantage® Loyalty Program, and wish to share my perspective.

I also have years of dealing with mission critical professionals that are proud of their work. I am dismayed by the treatment AA has given their Flight Attendents, Mechanics, and frontline CS personnel, but especially Pilots, leading up to and in this Bankruptcy.

Do not believe you can send an email and have all your customers believe that the recent operational problem stems from "maintenance write-ups by our pilots, many right at the time of departure. Our maintenance teams are responding appropriately to such reports, which may cause interruptions in our schedules". Many of us know better, and I certainly hope that AA does not believe that! The root cause is the treatment AA has given it's Pilots, and other critical employees, for years, but especially during this bankruptcy.

Fair treatment and honest negotiating goes a long way to happy satisfied employees - the only way to have happy and satisfied customers.

So, for what it is worth, there are customers flying with you that both recognize and support your importance to AA and to successful business travel. Keep up the efforts to fight against a system that is stacked against you, but that CAN NOT succeed without you. Stay united!

I award you "Cool of the day". Thanks for what you've done, both recognizing whats going on and voicing your opinion back to AA. Please educate and encourage others you know to do the same.

WHACKMASTER 09-22-2012 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by andreas500 (Post 1264924)
FYI - for those interested, I have flown many many miles on numerous airlines, I am not a pilot, and I have always been interested in the aviation industry.

That being said, I received the same email from AA a couple of days ago, and instantly recognized the BS of putting it on an employee group that is critical for safety and operational excellence. So, I sent the following email to AA Advantage Customer Service:

I have been a significant business traveler for more than 20 years, and have nearly 4 million miles on American over the years. Similar on United, and Delta, and Northwest prior to their merger with Delta.

I hated traveling United for years because their employees were just fed up, leading up to and through their bankruptcy. Congratulations, you are now in that category.

As a Platinum for life member on Advantage program, I received the email from Suzanne L. Rubin, President for AAdvantage® Loyalty Program, and wish to share my perspective.

I also have years of dealing with mission critical professionals that are proud of their work. I am dismayed by the treatment AA has given their Flight Attendents, Mechanics, and frontline CS personnel, but especially Pilots, leading up to and in this Bankruptcy.

Do not believe you can send an email and have all your customers believe that the recent operational problem stems from "maintenance write-ups by our pilots, many right at the time of departure. Our maintenance teams are responding appropriately to such reports, which may cause interruptions in our schedules". Many of us know better, and I certainly hope that AA does not believe that! The root cause is the treatment AA has given it's Pilots, and other critical employees, for years, but especially during this bankruptcy.

Fair treatment and honest negotiating goes a long way to happy satisfied employees - the only way to have happy and satisfied customers.

So, for what it is worth, there are customers flying with you that both recognize and support your importance to AA and to successful business travel. Keep up the efforts to fight against a system that is stacked against you, but that CAN NOT succeed without you. Stay united!

I'm neither an AA pilot nor do I know you and don't take this the wrong way, but..............I love you man!!!!!!!!!!!

Monkeyfly 09-22-2012 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by andreas500 (Post 1264924)
FYI - for those interested, I have flown many many miles on numerous airlines, I am not a pilot, and I have always been interested in the aviation industry.

That being said, I received the same email from AA a couple of days ago, and instantly recognized the BS of putting it on an employee group that is critical for safety and operational excellence. So, I sent the following email to AA Advantage Customer Service:

I have been a significant business traveler for more than 20 years, and have nearly 4 million miles on American over the years. Similar on United, and Delta, and Northwest prior to their merger with Delta.

I hated traveling United for years because their employees were just fed up, leading up to and through their bankruptcy. Congratulations, you are now in that category.

As a Platinum for life member on Advantage program, I received the email from Suzanne L. Rubin, President for AAdvantage® Loyalty Program, and wish to share my perspective.

I also have years of dealing with mission critical professionals that are proud of their work. I am dismayed by the treatment AA has given their Flight Attendents, Mechanics, and frontline CS personnel, but especially Pilots, leading up to and in this Bankruptcy.

Do not believe you can send an email and have all your customers believe that the recent operational problem stems from "maintenance write-ups by our pilots, many right at the time of departure. Our maintenance teams are responding appropriately to such reports, which may cause interruptions in our schedules". Many of us know better, and I certainly hope that AA does not believe that! The root cause is the treatment AA has given it's Pilots, and other critical employees, for years, but especially during this bankruptcy.

Fair treatment and honest negotiating goes a long way to happy satisfied employees - the only way to have happy and satisfied customers.

So, for what it is worth, there are customers flying with you that both recognize and support your importance to AA and to successful business travel. Keep up the efforts to fight against a system that is stacked against you, but that CAN NOT succeed without you. Stay united!

Hell to the YEAH

block30 09-23-2012 02:33 AM


Originally Posted by andreas500 (Post 1264924)
FYI - for those interested, I have flown many many miles on numerous airlines, I am not a pilot, and I have always been interested in the aviation industry.

That being said, I received the same email from AA a couple of days ago, and instantly recognized the BS of putting it on an employee group that is critical for safety and operational excellence. So, I sent the following email to AA Advantage Customer Service:

I have been a significant business traveler for more than 20 years, and have nearly 4 million miles on American over the years. Similar on United, and Delta, and Northwest prior to their merger with Delta.

I hated traveling United for years because their employees were just fed up, leading up to and through their bankruptcy. Congratulations, you are now in that category.

As a Platinum for life member on Advantage program, I received the email from Suzanne L. Rubin, President for AAdvantage® Loyalty Program, and wish to share my perspective.

I also have years of dealing with mission critical professionals that are proud of their work. I am dismayed by the treatment AA has given their Flight Attendents, Mechanics, and frontline CS personnel, but especially Pilots, leading up to and in this Bankruptcy.

Do not believe you can send an email and have all your customers believe that the recent operational problem stems from "maintenance write-ups by our pilots, many right at the time of departure. Our maintenance teams are responding appropriately to such reports, which may cause interruptions in our schedules". Many of us know better, and I certainly hope that AA does not believe that! The root cause is the treatment AA has given it's Pilots, and other critical employees, for years, but especially during this bankruptcy.

Fair treatment and honest negotiating goes a long way to happy satisfied employees - the only way to have happy and satisfied customers.

So, for what it is worth, there are customers flying with you that both recognize and support your importance to AA and to successful business travel. Keep up the efforts to fight against a system that is stacked against you, but that CAN NOT succeed without you. Stay united!

Holy cow! Can I buy you a beer sometime? :). What makes you visit the forums, by the way?

ForeverFO 09-23-2012 05:12 AM

Scene: Yesterday, Liberia, Costa Rica, late afternoon... AA 737-800. We picked our way through some growling thunderstorms that had the field more or less surrounded, but with a decent patch of clear air over the airport. We land. Turn the jet. Board the people.

"Uh, Joe, we need to get the hell out of here fast, that big storm to the SE is going to pound this airport."

We tried, didn't make it. By the time we disconnected the tow bar, it's 1/4 mile vis driving rain and lightning. Oddly, not too many gusts, but we aren't going anywhere.

So we sit. Make the standard PA/ "Look out the window... it's raining crocodiles and snakes, Zeus is really angry. We're going to have to wait this one out."

We do. 40 minutes later, we depart. After landing, more than one passenger gives us this incredibly ****y look. Our FA's explain - half the passengers thought you guys were playing some game and simply delaying the flight.

"Did they look out the window? People die flying in stuff like that."

"They did, but since they lived in Liberia, they thought they knew when it was safe to go, and said that it was."

There it is, folks, it's a no-win scenario. After having their minds poisoned by AMR's media blitz, even when we are doing our jobs perfectly, we will get the blame for everything. Even the WX. Thanks, Horton.

Atlas Shrugged 09-23-2012 08:31 AM

AA reply
 
My response to AA;

Dear Mrs. Rubin,

I have been a long time customer of American Airlines, and I try to fly American whenever possible.

I am shocked that you are blaming your pilots for your failure to maintain your aircraft to safe mechanical standards.

It is a shame that management has failed to properly run a great airline. I hope that you make it for the sake of the thousands of employees who depend on their jobs for survival.

Respectfully,
M. S.

andreas500 09-24-2012 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by block30 (Post 1265074)
Holy cow! Can I buy you a beer sometime? :). What makes you visit the forums, by the way?

I never turn down a beer! I am just interested and intrigued in aviation in general, have been for many years. Always wanted to get pilot license, but not enough time (or money), and do not think it would be a good idea unless I could actually fly fairly frequently, as opposed to on rare occasions when I believe I would be a hazard to myself and others.

Since I have flown so much for business for so many years, I also want to know what is going on in the industry - several years ago I was googling some "lingo" and that brought me to this forum, so I have watched and listened here for the last year or so, and will continue to do so.


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