You are kidding right? Comparing a blatant job action by a scab union and this is apples and oranges.

American Airlines has had the second most cancelled flights of any airline in the world for the last 3 days, including today. We are already #3 for tomorrow. Here's the link:

FlightAware

#2 now, behind Korean, who is apparently dealing with a Typhoon at their hub today.

I don't see how a judge can "punish" the pilots any more than he already has. They don't have a contract any more, and work to FAR's. If he levies fines against the APA, it wouldn't surprise me to see them dissolve the union and just go free agent until things blow over. It's not like they can send the Sheriff over to every pilots house and lead them to work in handcuffs.

Whatever the cause, poor operational performance will force the hand of the creditors. What they decide to do remains to be seen, but I'd think a merger would provide more value than a fire sale.

Can you PLEASE put your aside utter contempt for USairways pilots for ONE thread? Must you co-opt EVERY post ? Can we EVER have a discussion about labor unions without your vitriolic rants towards the East? I brought up the USAirways incident because I believe that the courts could rule in the same manner. If you disagree, do so like an adult and list the LEGAL aspects that are different- without your usual derogatory , childish, inappropriate, inaccurate, name calling. Do you ever get sick of writing the same old stuff? Don't you realize that at some point you start to get diminishing returns?
The success of the American pilots requires careful consideration of successes/failures of the past.

To which the APA guys should correctly point out: "There is no status Quo" We have never been in this situation before and so by definition there can be no status quo.

Good luck APA!

Scoop

No, yes, no. The usairways court situation has nothing to do with the American situation legally. For one the east had a union leadership that was actively promoting a job action, something you won't see at amr, and on top of that the amr pilot's don't have a "control" group like the west provided to usairways management. Those 2 facts alone make this a completely different legal landscape. I am sure the amr pilots have learned some lessons from the past and will handle this in a much smarter way.

USAPA made no secret of the fact they were staging a job action. Their communications and other actions left no doubt what was going on and gave the company all the ammunition they needed to get a court injunction. How dumb were the I am Onboard yellow lanyards USAPA wanted every pilot wearing? Simply beyond stupid on the unions part.

Does that surprise you one bit with USAPA? That is the biggest bunch of nincompoops out there.

Your understanding of BOB is correct! :)

I Liked Bob at FNWA, He got a lot done.

Everyone knows a Bob !