That I don't know. I guess I could look it up, but I'm too lazy to. For me, the difference between moveable and not moveable days is next to nil.

Scheduling doesn't move a day unless they have a pressing, immediate need. They are not strategy-minded whatsoever. They won't look a week ahead of time and say "my, we need an extra FO on the 20th, let's screw FO Nola." Their job is just a series of small fires they have to put out before they can go home and leave the chaos to the next guy. By the time they figure out they need to screw you, you should already be home with the phone turned off and a beer in your hand.

What I'm trying to say is (and chime in here if your mileage has varied), the times that Scheduling both need to move a day on you and can contractually alert you in time to make it happen are so rare as to be shocking when it happens.

edit: I have had Scheduling move a moveable to satisfy the 7 day rule. I think they can do this one time per month (if it makes a 'standalone' day off). Sometimes they just give you an extra day off, but that has become less common.

 

Originally Posted by Trogdor
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the MOU brings the total immovable days to 10.

I read this as well.

 

Yes, just read the NAC road show presentation. 18 days available a month. Days off = 11 immovable + 1 moveable (30 day mo), 11 immovable + 2 moveable (31 day mo).

 

I've been on reserve since Feb 2012. In that time, only 2 months where I did not have my moveable moved.
6 times I was flown into day off.
4 times I was called and asked to fly at 10pm for a 2:30 am departure into my days off.
They did offer to move my new days off wherever I wanted them.
4th July 2012 on days off they called and left message asking me to fly. I did not return call.
The week before Christmas 2012, I had 1 day remaining of availability. They called at 10:02pm and offered me a 4 days trip at 2:30 am. Promised me Christmas Eve and Christmas off if I helped them out. I told him I had a very long day at home and respectfully declined.
Lots of times I get called at the last minute and get a rolling 24 off, not a calender day.
Reminder, your 24 off in 7 can be in a foreign country.
Long call doesn't mean much when they can call you at 7pm for a 825am domestic flight without being on a RAP. Good luck commuting in for that one. I live in base and pretty much have to.

Since last Feb 2012 premium pay has never been offered to reserves in my status.
In my whole time at AA i've never recieved premium pay. I've never signed up for it. Nor do I want it.
TQ Nola may be senior reserve on his aircraft, I do not know. I'm junior reserve. It's a different ball game.
Just my slice of life on reserve. As stated by all YMMV
Cheer,
7576FO

 

Thanks for the help fellas. Sounds like aa merger would certainly be beneficial from a new hire us RSV perspective. Among others

 

I've had HI6's (the company's jurassic-age way of communicating to individual pilots) in most of the last several months saying they are 'invoking' their right to offer premium pay for the next few days (I'm MIA 76 I). I've never flown it, though I have been called (once) by CS and had them beg me to fly on my days off. I chuckled when I listened to the message, and continued sipping my beer.

You should NOT be fixated on premium pay. It is NOT a way to supplement your income. It's more of a way to be identified as a colossal douche.

I was hired 13 years ago; I am currently on the ragged edge of holding a line, so it sounds like I'm a little senior to you, 7576FO... it's odd to remember that 13 years ago I was in a newhire class listening to Kudwa tell us we were going to be captains in 5 or 6 years. Instead I was furloughed for over 3 years (we have guys who've been furloughed for 11 now). I'm reserve about 2/3 of the time.

That said, those numbers will not apply to newhires in 2013. If you are lucky enough to be hired at the beginning of what is looking like the next wave, you will probably be the 'golden boy' with the golden career, at least to those who get hired 2 or 3 years after you. It took some of us *years* to get back to the base we wanted, eg DFW or LAX or ORD. For some others of us, it will never happen (eg I was based in SFO prior to furlough, and obviously don't plan on making it back).

I commuted to MIA to sit reserve up until 2 years ago, and it SUCKED. I'm amazed I'm still married.

My core advice to anyone who gets on with us: move to a domicile, specifically one you feel you'll be able to hold for the foreseeable future. I don't have a crystal ball--I certainly wouldn't have been an airline pilot if I did--but at AA, this right now means MIA or LGA, with DFW as the darkhorse.

Sitting Reserve in your own home, with your kids running around and the dog wandering over for pets from time to time, cannot be compared to sitting in a crashpad with 3 or 7 other poor bastards ticking off the time until they can go back home. Every time I get off the plane and go to my car and drive home (instead of walking to the crackhouses outside the employee parking lot to sit in my pad) I have a little thrill of relief.

 

Who determines, "reasonably available via surface transportation?". I live 4 hours from base and consider the drive very reasonable if I can live at home versus a crashpad. Can anyone really tell you it took too long to get to the airport if there is no time specified in the contract? I have a crashpad now with Airway's 90 minute call out but would obviously much rather sit at home.

 

This sounds like something that management could easily change over time and pilots could do nothing about it.

If they call you for a flight going out in an hour, their definition may be that 30 minutes is a reasonable time. Other people typically live within 30 minutes of their workplace. Didn't get there in that time? You just caused a delay and you're going to pay.

I'd be worried about this type of ambiguity.

 

But our job has very little in common with "other people." Other people drive to and from work 5 times a week and sleep in their own beds every night. Management can't change the contract at will. Even if management decides on a "reasonable time," the contract has to be amended to reflect the new restriction or its not a restriction.

 

"Must be reasonally available by surface transportation"

It is what it is. Never give them a time that you can be there. Just ask if they put the trip on your schedule. For me there is no sign in time on reserve. I get there when I get there. I don't care if they said it leaves in 30 minutes.
Some guys live in Orlando and will straight up tell the scheduler, put me on a plane or it's gonna take me awhile to drive.
I've spoken with several pilots that got harrassed when they told scheduling 4 hours. So, never tell them a time. You don't know. You don't know what traffic on I95 is like. You will get there when you get there.
For those hoping of being a new hire and commuting to reserve, you will be miserable. If you do not live (rent or own) in base you made your bed, don't wine about it.