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01-28-2013 | 11:52 AM
#41
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At every recurrent I go upstairs. I've met many schedulers and dispatchers.
Contrary to some of my posts here, AA is not a place I can recommend to anyone.
From A to Z this place is the worst of ALL the majors.
The only positive thing I can say about life at AA is on reserve, if there is more than one trip open when they call you, you'll have a choice. If there is one person below you on reserve you may pass.
We now have no profit sharing. Yes, many will say when offered the choice of wages in ink vs. questionable profit sharing, go for the ink.
This place keeps taking and taking.
Just finished the book retirement heist. There's several pages on USAir, and AMR (AA and through American Beacon) are making bank (stealing) from us.
Before you apply to AA, do your research and call an AA pilot. Or ask here. This goes way beyond treating you like a number. Way beyond.
Note to all young pilots. When I was a young 25 yr old commuter pilot I started a 401K. No matter where you choose to work, start one immediately!
Contrary to some of my posts here, AA is not a place I can recommend to anyone.
From A to Z this place is the worst of ALL the majors.
The only positive thing I can say about life at AA is on reserve, if there is more than one trip open when they call you, you'll have a choice. If there is one person below you on reserve you may pass.
We now have no profit sharing. Yes, many will say when offered the choice of wages in ink vs. questionable profit sharing, go for the ink.
This place keeps taking and taking.
Just finished the book retirement heist. There's several pages on USAir, and AMR (AA and through American Beacon) are making bank (stealing) from us.
Before you apply to AA, do your research and call an AA pilot. Or ask here. This goes way beyond treating you like a number. Way beyond.
Note to all young pilots. When I was a young 25 yr old commuter pilot I started a 401K. No matter where you choose to work, start one immediately!
That said - with a management change, AA is a golden opportunity and has the potential to become Delta-like. With the chances of a merger inside of BK becoming higher every day, and a management change that goes along with that - I believe AA will become a kick-arse place to work within the next few years.
I hope I'm right. Regardless, the day AA announces hiring, they will be SWAMPED with applications.
01-28-2013 | 12:39 PM
#42
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Again I agree but the management teams seem to tout at Airways, Dal, UAL, etc. that they had 8,000 plus applicants apply..... I just don't see that as the case as many apply everywh and wonder how many total qualified applicants there are? I'd wager well under 15k? ..... AA and UAL will be battling this year with Fedex and SWA for the best out there but I think it'll be a matter of when the real applicant pool dwindle and quality becomes an issue.......
01-28-2013 | 07:25 PM
#44
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Fed had no clue what he was talking about. FAA posts the number of people getting licenses/ratings -
US Civil Airmen Statistics
Almost every military pilot gets there commercial/instrument. That's a couple thousand right there.
Last edited by Sliceback; 01-28-2013 at 07:27 PM. Reason: added comment about military pilots
01-29-2013 | 04:33 AM
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Fed had no clue what he was talking about. FAA posts the number of people getting licenses/ratings -
US Civil Airmen Statistics
Almost every military pilot gets there commercial/instrument. That's a couple thousand right there.
US Civil Airmen Statistics
Almost every military pilot gets there commercial/instrument. That's a couple thousand right there.
01-29-2013 | 04:34 AM
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I would say AA's management labor relations was very poor, but until Carty became CEO, their business acumen (under Crandall) was not bad... if anything, they knew the airline world. Unfortunately, that meant hosing employees to get to where they wanted to go.
So you have to look at "bad management" as it relates to two things:
1) labor relations, pay, a "great place to work"
2) Running an airline, outcompeting, understanding routes, yields, etc.
So you have to look at "bad management" as it relates to two things:
1) labor relations, pay, a "great place to work"
2) Running an airline, outcompeting, understanding routes, yields, etc.
02-03-2013 | 07:28 AM
#50
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Many airlines never reach their 'potential', my friend. Time will tell.
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