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Old 02-14-2013, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
No, pompous works though. If you base who you will accept information from on how they talk or pronounce words. I got a cousin, who hasn't seen the inside of an educational building since the 7th grade, sounds like an inbred walk on from "Deliverance," and has forgotten more about cars than the engineers who build them know. He has an inate sense of mechanics and machines, yet uses words like, "That there dohicky over yonder" when pointing out something under the hood.

Personally, I don't think it really matters if you can properly spell or pronounce the guy's name or not. The APA is gonna steamroll USAPA in the long run, regardless of any prior deals. After all, nothings really "binding" nowadays.
Mayb your wright. Know one no's what impakt the nicoloose award will have. When nuclehed relleased his ruuling, mayb even he didnit no what would occur regarding the formulation of a knew union to circomvent his ruling.

Goerge Nimbefoot was inded a very olderly man when he made that ruuling.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:04 AM
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In the future, I would appreciate it if you would stand before him at attention and address him as Sir.
How do you know it shouldn't be "mam" ?
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:08 AM
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Sorry about the spelling however I have been around a long time and been involved in 3 major SLI's. I am very aware of the process and how it works. Nicolau will be involved one way or another. If its not used the arbitrator will certainly be aware of what USAIR did in regard to his coworkers ruling and it will have a impact on the final list. If its not used there also will be a lawsuit filed by the USAIR west pilots that could lead to a very long SLI process. You might take a quick look at how many arbitrators are available for a SLI on this level. They are all friends and comrades so to speak. Whoever they get will probably talk quite a bit with Nicolau. The actions of the USAIR east pilots were a direct rebuke of the process and what they do for a living and if the list is not used reduces their authority. USAIR east has been involved in arbitration since they refused Nicolau and they have had their asses handed to them every time. There is a reason.
Don't take it personally. It's just arbitrations are complicated (I think) and IMO, if one is going to go into detail on their position (and yours is as good as anyone elses), if you consistantly put another name in there, it just makes me wonder. A typo is one thing and we all make those, but I simply saw it as a foundational issue as to the validity of your position.

I'll give you a "get out of jail free" card to kick me in the nuts (cyber style) in the future. I expect you to lie in wait and pounce like a cat in classic fashion at the opportune time.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
I'll give you a "get out of jail free" card to kick me in the nuts (cyber style) in the future.
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How do you know it shouldn't be "mam" ?

Intersesting choice of phrasing if "Ma'am" is indeed correct.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Sorry about the spelling however I have been around a long time and been involved in 3 major SLI's. I am very aware of the process and how it works. Nicolau will be involved one way or another. If its not used the arbitrator will certainly be aware of what USAIR did in regard to his coworkers ruling and it will have a impact on the final list. If its not used there also will be a lawsuit filed by the USAIR west pilots that could lead to a very long SLI process. You might take a quick look at how many arbitrators are available for a SLI on this level. They are all friends and comrades so to speak. Whoever they get will probably talk quite a bit with Nicolau. The actions of the USAIR east pilots were a direct rebuke of the process and what they do for a living and if the list is not used reduces their authority. USAIR east has been involved in arbitration since they refused Nicolau and they have had their asses handed to them every time. There is a reason.
Is there a chance those future arbitrators have looked at Nicolau's work and the chaos it has unleashed and said "Wow! He screwed that up. He must be slipping!"?

You, and most guys, forget that it was our transition agreement that allowed the east pilots to do what they did. They could have done it any number of ways, they chose to form a new union and try that road. As of today it has not buried the Nicolau award, but it has prevented it's implementation. Big questions on how that stalemate works with this merger.

We may not make it to arbitration this time. I suspect we will, but it would really serve all out interests to really try and negotiate this.

We'll see how it works out.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
Intersesting choice of phrasing if "Ma'am" is indeed correct.
Continuation of the vibe in the previous post (#31).
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:24 AM
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Is there a chance those future arbitrators have looked at Nicolau's work and the chaos it has unleashed and said "Wow! He screwed that up. He must be slipping!"?

You, and most guys, forget that it was our transition agreement that allowed the east pilots to do what they did. They could have done it any number of ways, they chose to form a new union and try that road. As of today it has not buried the Nicolau award, but it has prevented it's implementation. Big questions on how that stalemate works with this merger.

We may not make it to arbitration this time. I suspect we will, but it would really serve all out interests to really try and negotiate this.

We'll see how it works out.
Perhaps a new arbitration to determine the validity of the Nicolau arbitration and/or the propriety of USAPA unilaterally voiding it ?

I'm curious myself to see what path is used to exit this conundrum.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
If you can't even get the arbitrators name correct, how much credibility are we supposed to give your assertions ?

It gives the impression you have no clue as to the issues and have never read his rulings. Kinda like going on a classic car forum and pontificating on the virtues of the Shevrollet Corvet.

His name is Nicolau.

Said Mr Pedantic.*

It's a forum board discussion, not a formal disertation. Regardless of spelling a dottering old man's name, if the info is good, it's good.


* I'll save you the trouble of Googling it.

pedanticadjective1. hairsplitting, particular, formal, precise, fussy, picky (informal), nit-picking (informal), punctilious, priggish, pedagogic, anal retentive, overnice all his pedantic quibbles about grammar
2. academic, pompous, schoolmasterly, stilted, erudite, scholastic, didactic, bookish, abstruse, donnish, sententious His lecture was pedantic and uninteresting.
Ironic that in your post in which you call him "pedantic," you give many definitions of the word to ensure that he understands the meaning.

Pedantry is not lost on you.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:34 AM
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Ironic that in your post in which you call him "pedantic," you give many definitions of the word to ensure that he understands the meaning.

Pedantry is not lost on you.
Yes, see last sentence of post #21. It's been beaten enough, so time to move on........

LoRocco had the same problem with a lot of "La Racca's", etc., and with Bloch, there was even an occasional "Block".

Is it arbitraitors [sic] or pilots ?
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by The Juice

Pedantry is not lost on you.
That, unfortunately is the problem with the word. In order to point out the pedantery of others, one must be pedantic. There is no way around it. Unless you just want to call someone a jackalope.
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