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Old 06-26-2013 | 07:56 AM
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Old 06-26-2013 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by aa73
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It hasn't been implemented yet. Coming shortly, and all will be able to do it. Just like everything else, AMR has only implemented what benefits them, on their own timing.

Are you sure? My guess is, it isn't in the fineprint. My guess is that you will only be allowed when offered by CS. So "Once in a blue moon"

And it is something I am against. Any picked up trip by a reserve will affect that persons actual reserve days availability.

I've worked for an airline before that allowed reserves to pick up trips on their days off. Hence we had a saying "a reserve day is a rest day" meaning you were'nt legal to fly because you flew on your day off.

Here's some real time AA Circus reserve.

I got home form a all nighter yesterday morning. They assigned the guy jr to me an all nighter tonight. He then took 4 hours to call in fatigued. Then someones diverting in a 777. I'm not on a rap, so I can't fly dom to JFK. So they reassign a line holder the FB and put me on a all nighter tonight.

The person they put on a rap for today was only good for 1 day. This is the kind of stupidity that CS displays daily.

For those following along, I did mention I will fly trip after trip from June 22 until July 5.

You do not want to be on reserve at AA.

I will NEVER EVER (Taylor Swift) PICK UP A TRIP ON A DAY OFF ON RESERVE

I can live and save money on guarantee.

I hope AA73 is right, but sadly, it's not in the contract language.
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Old 06-26-2013 | 10:23 AM
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Is there any kind of timeline for the MOU reserve implementation? Technically long call goes away in the MOU but I've been told it is still being negotiated.
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Old 06-26-2013 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 7576FO

You do not want to be on reserve at AA.
And there I was, *****ing about US's reserve system in another thread. AA's sounds draconian at best, not sure how my marriage will handle becoming an AA reserve.
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Old 06-26-2013 | 12:14 PM
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Overall if you live in base on Reserve how is it? Reading all above seems you could hardly commute to reserve.

Also what time does an average reserve pilot tell sked he/she will be at gate when called out??

Last question, how does the upgrade policy work exactly. Is it by equipment in base or system overall or any aircraft overall??

Thanks
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Old 06-26-2013 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by GAPILOT36
Overall if you live in base on Reserve how is it? Reading all above seems you could hardly commute to reserve.

Also what time does an average reserve pilot tell sked he/she will be at gate when called out??

Last question, how does the upgrade policy work exactly. Is it by equipment in base or system overall or any aircraft overall??

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I live in base. I have 66 hours so far this month. I am on reserve on the 777. The most senior airplane. Many commute to reserve, they are crazy or fearless.
I have a friend 737 FO reserve. He flies alot, almost every day.

We never tell a crew scheduler when you'll be there. Lots of times you are assigned a trip for tomorrow at Noon to 2pm today. And the traffic in Miami is crazy. So never commit to a time.

Today I was called at 1pm and assigned an all nighter tonight. I got home yesterday morning at 4am.

Upgrade policy? We used to have a mandatory upgrade policy that one year after someone jr to you in base upgraded, you had to upgrade. That was put on hold after Sept 2001. I think it is totally done away with on the new contract.
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Old 06-26-2013 | 01:48 PM
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Thanks for the answers. So how are upgrades awarded? How often are there vacancies or system bids? What a/c is going junior?
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Old 06-26-2013 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by GAPILOT36
Thanks for the answers. So how are upgrades awarded? How often are there vacancies or system bids? What a/c is going junior?

Like any major airline upgrade to Captain is based on date of hire seniority number. Now, some pilots bypass upgrade for better seniority on vacation, monthly bidding schedules and destinations.

At AA anything can happen. New hires can get the 757/767 or the S80 or 737. Until 2014 we still designate you Domestic or International. Our Caribbean monthly bid schedules for the last 7 years have included more and more Domestic flights and layovers.
In 2002 you might fly to Barbados, spend the night and fly home. 2 day trip. Well, now it's more likely Barbados layover (RON, remain overnight) then back to MIA then on to DFW spend the night, then either home on the 3rd day to MIA or you might go DFW to CUN (Cancun) then on to MIA.

I have overnighted in Quito Ecuador and then flown to MIA then on to Boston to spend the night.

It took me 15 years to get to be a 777 FO.

We have a monthly vacancy run. It's for 3 months ahead. So our next monthly vacancy run closes on July 5, we'll know on July 12th if we can change aircraft, seat (FO or CA) or Base for Sept 1. But at AA they make it weird and so the next vacancy run is for Aug 31.

They try to minimize 31 day months. So monthly bid schedules can be July 2-July 31.

February is usually Jan 31 - March 1.

If AA can make it complicated and then not explain it to you, they will.

We each have a monthly standing bid (a list on the computer of what you want)

Preferences they are called

Mine would be

777 CA
767 CA
737 CA
320 CA

777 FO
767 FO ect... you can change your choices whenever.

Not all the airlines run monthly vacancies. Some will wait till they need several Capt's or FO's in a base and then run one.

This is something I like about AA, you can change bases all the time. If there is a vacancy.

Last week they posted the vacancies for Aug 31. It was mostly for 737 CA's and FO's at most bases.

Recently we've had a lot of new vacancies on the 777 due to the 777-300's we're getting.

Hope I answered your queston.
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Old 06-26-2013 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by aa73
7576,

It hasn't been implemented yet. Coming shortly, and all will be able to do it. Just like everything else, AMR has only implemented what benefits them, on their own timing.

I'm seeing a lot of "At company's OPTION"




Filling of Open Time - Ordera. Sequence Protection Recovery pilots in accordance with the provisions of Section 4.C.4.
b. Aggressive Pick-up - Within three (3) hours of scheduled or rescheduled departure
Aggressive Pick-up is open on a first-come, first-served basis via a mutually agreed upon
process for in base and out of base pilots, in
cluding at Company option, reserve pilots on
DFPs. DFP will not be replaced. Aggressive Pick-up pilots are required to make an on
time departure.
(1) If unable to make scheduled sign in, pilot must advise Crew Schedule of an expected
sign in time that is consistent with an on time departure. In the event the pilot is
unable to make an on time departure, the Company has the option to replace the
Aggressive Pick-up pilot, in
which case the pilot will be handled in accordance with
the Commuter Policy.
c. Pick-up in Base
(1) Regular Pick-up, in Division, including, at Company option, eligible reserve pilots
volunteering to fly on a DFP. DFP will not be replaced.
(2) Regular Pick-up, opposite Division, includ
ing, at Company option, eligible reserve
pilots volunteering to fly on
a DFP. DFP will not be replaced.
(3) At Company Option: Pick-up with conflict,
in Division first, then in the opposite
Division.
(4) At Company Option
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Old 06-26-2013 | 04:01 PM
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I mean I hope you're right, but most likely Reserves won't be able to on a day off, just go pick one off the computer. It will have to be a holiday, and the company (CS) will be at the last minute send out a message that no-one will see until it's too late for a reserve to pick up a trip on his day off.




At Company option, Crew Schedule may split or transfer sequences and/or reallocate
flight legs and commence again,
following steps a. through d. above.
f. Reserve Assignment/Award. The Company shall
select, at its option, one or more of the
following categories. The pilots in the selected categories will be considered in a single
pool for the purposes of this Section
15.L
.4.f.. From this single pool of pilots, reserve
assignments/awards will be prioritiz
ed in the following order: Block,
RPV
and Seniority.
(1) In Division, assign to a reserve without a DFP conflict.
(2) In opposite Division, award to a reserve without a DFP conflict.
(3) In Division, award to a reserve volunteering to fly into or out of a DFP (flying on DFP
paid above guarantee, affected DFPs not replaced).
(4) In opposite Division, award to a reserve volunt
eering to fly into or out of a DFP (flying
on DFP paid above guarantee, affected DFPs not replaced).
(5) In opposite Division, assign to a reserve
without a DFP conflict. If an International
Division reserve is assigned to a sequence in the Domestic Division, International
override will be paid for that sequence.
(6) In Division, assign to a reserve flying into a DFP (up to 1200).
NOTE: Prior to proceeding to steps (g) through (i) below, all remaining open time must have
been offered as premium flying in steps (b) through (d).
g. Co
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