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Pacman 04-11-2016 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by babs (Post 2107221)
I'm counting 715 narrow body aircraft at the end of Q4. Doesn't APA scope only allow for 40% of the narrow body fleet to be large RJs and no more than 75% of the narrow body fleet to be the limit for all RJs? 40% of 715 is 286 large RJs and 75% of 715 is ~536 total RJs. I am not sure exactly how many seat variants there are for the CRJ700 and am unsure how many(if any) classify as large RJs, but in the 1/29/16 fleet update it shows a total of 607 RJs operating at the end of Q4. That is well above the 536 allowed. Am I missing something here or are my 40% and 75% numbers not accurate?


Good question.

beancounter 04-11-2016 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by babs (Post 2107221)
I'm counting 715 narrow body aircraft at the end of Q4. Doesn't APA scope only allow for 40% of the narrow body fleet to be large RJs and no more than 75% of the narrow body fleet to be the limit for all RJs? 40% of 715 is 286 large RJs and 75% of 715 is ~536 total RJs. I am not sure exactly how many seat variants there are for the CRJ700 and am unsure how many(if any) classify as large RJs, but in the 1/29/16 fleet update it shows a total of 607 RJs operating at the end of Q4. That is well above the 536 allowed. Am I missing something here or are my 40% and 75% numbers not accurate?

Wish I could give you more info, several people have called foul on scope levels, but as far as I know the company is currently in compliance.

UPTme 04-11-2016 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 2105789)
UPT - check out the LUS seniority list on the APA website. It will have the rare data(DOH/DOB). I havn't seen it listed with retirements per year.

Home page>New hires/new members>Seniority/Member/non-member stats>(all three seniority lists link)

The East and West lists I'm seeing here do not have DOB or retirement data on them. Just DOH, so it's really no help. Anyone else have eyes on an LUS (east and west) list with DOB/retirement data?

Sliceback 04-11-2016 09:55 AM

You're right. I checked last night. No DOB info.

viper548 04-11-2016 10:08 AM

It's quite time consuming but you can do a member lookup on the APA website and it shows the person's retirement date. East pilots were oldest-youngest in class, so that can help you go through the seniority list a bit faster to figure out who is senior/younger. If it helps I was hired 6/17/14 at 33 and 11 months and there are 202 on the East list younger/senior to me, 15 on the west list, and 32 on the AA list. The youngest in my class was 30 and the average was probably mid 40's. They weren't hiring as many guys in their 20's after summer 2014.

Name User 04-11-2016 01:03 PM

August 2014 was the last Airways hiring class IIRC.

RyanP 04-13-2016 09:26 AM

Here is the class sizes and allocation over the last few years if anyone is interested. It is from our flow data, but off the street applicants may find it useful info as well. Just be aware the (Street hires) column from MAY 2015 on, also has a group of flows included from PDT and PSA. I believe up to about 9/month combined is what they get. So the true recent off the street numbers are really less than what they may appear.



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Jetwash 04-19-2016 11:20 AM

US side drop from class today:

6 PHL 190
13 PHL 319
2 DCA 319

Finally guys are avoiding the 190


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IDG99 04-19-2016 02:43 PM

Do you know how many letter T pilots returned?

TOGAANG 04-19-2016 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by Jetwash (Post 2112795)
US side drop from class today:

6 PHL 190
13 PHL 319
2 DCA 319

Finally guys are avoiding the 190


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How many of the guys who got the 319 were new hires and not returnees?


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