New Hires in PHX
 

Anyone have insight as to how this is going to work? If one was to want PHX and not get it can he/she bid it next bid period (airbus to airbus) and same question if you get PHX and would like to end up in an east coast domicile (airbus to airbus)...

Nothing until SLI...lots of peeps waiting for PHX.

No openings in PHX currently. The US Airways and America West pilot groups have never been combined so we operate under two separate and distinct seniority lists. The America West pilot group had 45 on furlough until recently. The company did publish a letter last fall that all the West furloughs would be recalled but I don't recall seeing a schedule or any updates since as to the recall progress to date.


It's always possible that attrition could open up PHX in the near future but with a joint certificate not planned till the spring of 2015, I'd guess looking at it today, it may not be until then you could bid that domicile.

The west has a bid open now and at the conclusion they may need new hires.

About a month ago I flew with a west guy that took an east seat. He said that the company gave them the same rights as AA pilots for recall, so they could defer recall for the same length of time. I was under the impression that all west furloughs have been offered recall and have either returned or deferred. He was deferring.

This is a new area for us. Previously you were stuck on one system or another, unless you had been furloughed. We'll see if things have changed.

As has been said, no switching until SLI at best. One other thing to consider is that if you get PHX right off the bat, your hotel (not sure about per diem) might not be paid for during training and indoc. This was apparently how the west operated under their contract. The MTA might change this, I'm not sure. Even if it does change it, who knows when that will happen.

The west bid that just closed had 15 upgrades and 15 FO vacancies. He might be asking this question because, evidently new hires are being told to expect CLT, PHL, or.....yes, it's hard to believe PHX.

When I read through the MOU it seemed to indicate that all (east and west) have the same standards now...same pay, etc.

If they don't pay for hotels that's certainly something to keep in mind!

I was told new hires are being offered PHX, but currently east pilots ie third listers cannot move west. Notice: this is 2 1/2 hand information. I say 2 1/2 because i was told by a new hire and third lister. Hence, it's second and third hand information.

I though the MOU (and AA's Green Book) provided hotels for training in your base if you live outside of 100 miles. Just have to get authorization from the Chief Pilot's Office. I don't know if that applies to new hires or not.

Yes, was told by HR during interview that PHX would be open to new hires during training "as required". If you are unable to change until after SLI are we looking at fourth listers, lol?