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Bad-Andy 02-10-2014 04:00 AM


Originally Posted by pilotkitch (Post 1578044)
Where did those hirings fall in the Nic, ALPA, USAPA timeline?

They arrived after the Nic Award, Still 2 separate ALPAs, just prior to the USAPA vote...

PurpleTurtle 02-10-2014 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by 70Espada (Post 1577700)
For the majority of the third listers I would completely agree. Unfortunately there are some real nut jobs on the east and some third listers themselves that think they should go above junior west pilots. They are a minority thankfully, but still cause problems for everyone.

Is relative position not good enough for them?

texaspilot76 02-10-2014 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by meyers9163 (Post 1577988)
More 190 guys in Philly is all we need ;).... Then those guys being held for training can move on up... :)

What's the average amount of time that people are being held on the 190 until they can go to training?

LIOG41 02-10-2014 07:55 AM

11 months for a friend of mine.

pilotkitch 02-10-2014 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by LIOG41 (Post 1578293)
11 months for a friend of mine.

11 months past the seat lock or 11 months since initial?

CanoePilot 02-10-2014 08:00 AM

I don't understand the 190. They only have 20 airplanes and it is such a mess to keep it staffed and operating. Why not just sell the fleet and get 20 a319s to replace them? If you can fill 100 seats you can fill 124.

LIOG41 02-10-2014 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by pilotkitch (Post 1578297)
11 months past the seat lock or 11 months since initial?

Since Initial

pilotkitch 02-10-2014 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by CanoePilot (Post 1578298)
I don't understand the 190.

I believe they are much cheaper to operate than the 319

meyers9163 02-10-2014 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by texaspilot76 (Post 1578292)
What's the average amount of time that people are being held on the 190 until they can go to training?

I've heard as much as 3 months.... I think they can hold no longer then 6 months? Maybe 757 or someone else knows for sure?

meyers9163 02-10-2014 08:20 AM


Originally Posted by CanoePilot (Post 1578298)
I don't understand the 190. They only have 20 airplanes and it is such a mess to keep it staffed and operating. Why not just sell the fleet and get 20 a319s to replace them? If you can fill 100 seats you can fill 124.

Eh.... It has a need.... Only two FAs and normally good crews... It's a fun plane and I've noticed I normally have 90-99 passengers. That's 30 open seats on an Airbus which seems wasteful I'd say....


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