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Old 02-15-2014, 03:06 PM
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How big is LAX for legacy AA? I remember someone posting the bases/equipment but no numbers.

AA is larger than Delta and United.


And apparently profitable in LAX 4Q2013 while analysts say/believe other carriers are operating at a loss in LAX.
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Old 02-15-2014, 03:10 PM
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I do a JDM*tail code for each trip I fly.
Is that a DECS code? I use RGAtail#/Y for the same, up flight and routing.
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What an uplifting post. I don't see that happening. They shouldn't have to "compete" for pilots. With our attrition this will be the place to be. He will only have to pay what all the other legacies do and they will be standing in line. Now the regionals, there's where they will have a problem.
Sorry Cub Guy but nearly three decades experience causes one not to be such a Pollyanna when it comes to looking at what airline managers might do. Have you ever heard of the "Lucy Syndrome?" You recall how much Charlie Brown wants to kick the football and how Lucy assures him that "this time I will not move the ball" yet at the last minute she always moves the ball and he falls on his butt, a loser again. Pilots are the quintessential example of this syndrome. The airline pilot profession has historically tried to accommodate airline management trusting managements promise of future rewards only to wake up the next day to hear management declare that the agreement is not realistic and cannot be upheld or as a former AA CEO exclaimed "Things change." Pilots must change their way of thinking, a thought process that has historically been manipulated by management with promises of shiny new jets, rapid upgrades and glamorous new destinations, and not fall for anything that is not parked at their gate, painted in their colors and has their pilots at the controls with an out time, then you might be able to believe about half of what management is saying. Yes this is not a happy thought or a pleasant way to look at your career but time has shown that accepting managements word has resulted in a profession that has 40 percent of the purchasing power it had prior to deregulation while management has seen their compensation soar and their purchasing power increase over 500 percent during the same time period. We are now beginning to see a new breed that has decided their "love of flying" does not justify a huge investment in time and money to work for hamburger flipper wages. The negotiating mindset must change and no longer accept any promises, retirement benefits, profit sharing, pay increases based on complex formulas, etc. and only bargain to get it all up front to include current compensation and retirement accounts and benefits that you control, not the company, because you have no idea what the company will look like 20 or 30 years from now. Sorry but the concept of corporate loyalty is dead, deal with it.
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Sorry Cub Guy but nearly three decades experience causes one not to be such a Pollyanna when it comes to looking at what airline managers might do. Have you ever heard of the "Lucy Syndrome?" You recall how much Charlie Brown wants to kick the football and how Lucy assures him that "this time I will not move the ball" yet at the last minute she always moves the ball and he falls on his butt, a loser again. Pilots are the quintessential example of this syndrome. The airline pilot profession has historically tried to accommodate airline management trusting managements promise of future rewards only to wake up the next day to hear management declare that the agreement is not realistic and cannot be upheld or as a former AA CEO exclaimed "Things change." Pilots must change their way of thinking, a thought process that has historically been manipulated by management with promises of shiny new jets, rapid upgrades and glamorous new destinations, and not fall for anything that is not parked at their gate, painted in their colors and has their pilots at the controls with an out time, then you might be able to believe about half of what management is saying. Yes this is not a happy thought or a pleasant way to look at your career but time has shown that accepting managements word has resulted in a profession that has 40 percent of the purchasing power it had prior to deregulation while management has seen their compensation soar and their purchasing power increase over 500 percent during the same time period. We are now beginning to see a new breed that has decided their "love of flying" does not justify a huge investment in time and money to work for hamburger flipper wages. The negotiating mindset must change and no longer accept any promises, retirement benefits, profit sharing, pay increases based on complex formulas, etc. and only bargain to get it all up front to include current compensation and retirement accounts and benefits that you control, not the company, because you have no idea what the company will look like 20 or 30 years from now. Sorry but the concept of corporate loyalty is dead, deal with it.
Nighthawk,
I don't disagree with anything in your post I'm just trying to figure out why it was hosed at me.
All I posted was that we should do pretty well at being able to recruit pilots due to our unique attrition alone.
Thanks for the wisdom from your "nearly three decades of service"
I didn't know that should matter but if it does I have over three and a half decades completed and eight years to go. Matter of fact, I preceded deregulation by six months.
Trust me, I DO NOT wear rose colored glasses. We happen to think alike. Please spare me the lecture about corporate loyalty and what I need to "deal with" I'm not a child and to be honest I have little corporate loyalty.
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Originally Posted by R57 relay View Post
Is that a DECS code? I use RGAtail#/Y for the same, up flight and routing.
Yes! It's JDM*7BY It gives all equip furnishings with a Y or N
It's funny to look at because it has every option historically that all aircraft could come with.

(N) Nose wheel brakes (only the ((some) 727's had these)
(Y) Pegasus

But it also gives cycles and delivery date. And I think that is the only place you can find that info in DECS.
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Old 02-17-2014, 05:50 AM
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He's friendly as h#ll when he needs something from you but once you loose your leverage he will nail you to the ground and say "sorry it's just business."
That is scheduling (East side) 95% of the time, they do help out sometimes though.
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Old 02-17-2014, 07:07 AM
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Yes! It's JDM*7BY It gives all equip furnishings with a Y or N
It's funny to look at because it has every option historically that all aircraft could come with.

(N) Nose wheel brakes (only the ((some) 727's had these)
(Y) Pegasus

But it also gives cycles and delivery date. And I think that is the only place you can find that info in DECS.
I pulled it up last night when I got to work and was amazed at the info.!

The RGA#/Y also has cycles and total time in addition to the aircraft's routing.

Those 777s are babies. Try 106,000 hrs and 21,550 on a 76.
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I pulled it up last night when I got to work and was amazed at the info.!

The RGA#/Y also has cycles and total time in addition to the aircraft's routing.

Those 777s are babies. Try 106,000 hrs and 21,550 on a 76.
Always thought it would be humorous for a transcon passenger in an AA 767 reading a story about the oldest B52 in operational service and then learning that the jet he is riding in has 5 times as many flight hours.

We used to have a 767-200 that was built around 18 months later than our youngest 727-200
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Nighthawk,
I don't disagree with anything in your post I'm just trying to figure out why it was hosed at me.
All I posted was that we should do pretty well at being able to recruit pilots due to our unique attrition alone.
Thanks for the wisdom from your "nearly three decades of service"
I didn't know that should matter but if it does I have over three and a half decades completed and eight years to go. Matter of fact, I preceded deregulation by six months.
Trust me, I DO NOT wear rose colored glasses. We happen to think alike. Please spare me the lecture about corporate loyalty and what I need to "deal with" I'm not a child and to be honest I have little corporate loyalty.
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Sorry, my mistake. You obviously have more longevity than I and by predating deregulation know all about how far the profession has fallen. Unfortunately there are too many in our ranks that have little knowledge and even less respect for our history, choosing instead to hang on every company generated rumor and promise.
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No problem,
It has indeed been tragic what we have allowed to happen to our profession. Respect will never be obtained without self respect and improvements will only come with unselfish unity. I believe we finally have an opportunity to make some adjustments.
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