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Originally Posted by cubguy (Post 1634820)

If the majority cannot comprehend the correlation between demanding to look sharp and eventual rewards and think the uniform is "stupid" then we really ARE f---ed!
CG

You don't get compensated on the sharpness/smartness of your appearance, you get compensated on your (group's) ability to negotiate.

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Originally Posted by bassslayer (Post 1634173)

That is a completely valid opinion. If you would like to wear a hat, by all means you can continue to do so whether or not they become mandatory. However, many of us are not Marines, do not want to wear hats, or be forced to wear them because a very small group of pilots feel that the hat defines professionalism. This isn't the military, its time to move on.

Personally, hats make my head itch and I dont feel like walking around scratching my forehead for the next 30 years. Not all of us are bald or choose to have a tightly shaved military style haircut so looking like I just crawled out of bed everytime I take the hat off is also not appealing to me. Not to mention, unless you have a larger head and neck, they make most pilots look like twelve year olds playing dressup in daddys work clothes. I see lots of new hires in the regionals wearing them. Lots of them dont even shave yet wearing this big goofy hat. They seriously look twelve.

Well put Dimebag...I mean BassSlayer!! I KNOW I look like a little kid in these dumb-satellite-dish-shaped hats. I cringe at even the thought of being forced to wear these! Don't get me wrong, some people wear hats well (as I'm sure the Marine does), but I don't...Thanks!

P.S. Now that I think about it...Dimebag didn't play bass, did he???

P.S.S That is Dimebag, isn't it?

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Originally Posted by 121PyLut (Post 1635157)

Yeah it is, he was the lead guitar. Ive always been a big Pantera fan. My screen name comes from being a fisherman. Bass meaning the fish not guitar, as in slaying the fish. I can see how how that combo of screen name and avatar lead people to think I play bass guitar. Truth be told I have no idea how to play any type of instrument. Lol

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Originally Posted by Thedude (Post 1635142)

You don't get compensated on the sharpness/smartness of your appearance, you get compensated on your (group's) ability to negotiate.

You're right!
And your groups ability to negotiate is severely diminished when most of you group looks like clowns. Respect from across the table has a lot to do with it!
CG

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Originally Posted by cubguy (Post 1635265)

Respect from across the table has a lot to do with it!
CG

HA!
The guys on the other side of the table already think you are a bunch over-paid schmucks and are trying to compensate you with as little as possible.

As far as hats go,
When are two times when you don't wear hats?
Indoors and when around airplanes.

Do agents that negotiate for athletes and movie stars wear 1990s dockers and black sneakers to the boardroom?

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Originally Posted by N43898 (Post 1635799)

Do agents that negotiate for athletes and movie stars wear 1990s dockers and black sneakers to the boardroom?

Jerry maguire does

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Originally Posted by N43898 (Post 1635799)

Do agents that negotiate for athletes and movie stars wear 1990s dockers and black sneakers to the boardroom?

These days they probably do. They sure as he'll don't wear a tie and a short sleeve shirt. Back to hats they won't be mandatory, no airline has gone from none back to mandatory. The company doesnt want to buy 15000 hats and half the group wouldn't wear them mandatory or not, I know I wouldn't.

The most successful airline pilot groups in the world must wear hats...

This should mean something.