Search
Notices

DH no mo PNC and PP ...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-13-2014, 03:51 PM
  #1  
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
 
Arado 234's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,764
Exclamation DH no mo PNC and PP ...

I am surprised that no one mourns the loss of PNC for DH. Can somebody explain USAPA's reasoning to let that one go? The union reps I have flown with in Philly land are all dead against the decision blaming CLT.

An interesting rumor I came across is that CB in CLT envied his colleagues on the 75 take 130 hours home with them. Heard it more than once... (so it must be "true"...)

Whenever I bring up this issues I get replies about premium pay. As a commuter it doesn't do me any good if I get a call from scheduling at 3 am for a 8 am departure.

Why did we give away PNC for DH?
Arado 234 is offline  
Old 09-13-2014, 05:12 PM
  #2  
Banned
 
Joined APC: Aug 2014
Position: A320 F/O
Posts: 442
Default

I can count on one hand how many times I have been DH'd around the system. My guess was it was dropped for something more useful.
inline five is offline  
Old 09-13-2014, 05:20 PM
  #3  
Gets Weekends Off
 
The Drizzle's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2013
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 596
Default

Originally Posted by inline five View Post
I can count on one hand how many times I have been DH'd around the system. My guess was it was dropped for something more useful.

Not exactly dropped for something else, but since it's pay AND credit it counts toward your monthly max/min. In theory you should be working less if DHs were still a large part of your schedule in the past. It sucks for the reserves and for those who would try to pad their pay with a bunch of PNC.
The Drizzle is offline  
Old 09-13-2014, 06:26 PM
  #4  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Hueypilot's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: B737
Posts: 1,204
Default

Originally Posted by inline five View Post
I can count on one hand how many times I have been DH'd around the system. My guess was it was dropped for something more useful.
I was DH'd 5 times in the past month and a half...
Hueypilot is offline  
Old 09-14-2014, 12:51 AM
  #5  
Are we there yet??!!
 
Joined APC: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,010
Default

So about 20-25% of the company is punished with the loss of DH pay.
What did we get in return?
Thedude is offline  
Old 09-14-2014, 05:00 AM
  #6  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Posts: 405
Default

Ask the APA.
FreighterGuyNow is offline  
Old 09-14-2014, 05:50 AM
  #7  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2011
Posts: 104
Default

DH pay and credit requires more lines to be built and more dues-paying pilots to fly those lines.
Pacman is offline  
Old 09-14-2014, 07:09 AM
  #8  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2011
Position: A320 Capt
Posts: 5,293
Default

^^^^^

That's what I heard. It was going away with the MOU, and USAPA leaders wanted to hurry up it's demise to get more butts in the seats. I don't think the training dept. can make that happen any faster.
R57 relay is offline  
Old 09-14-2014, 02:55 PM
  #9  
New Hire
 
Joined APC: Aug 2014
Posts: 4
Default

Originally Posted by FreighterGuyNow View Post
Ask the APA.
OK Brainiac, how did APA have anything to do with this decision? Please enlighten me oh wise one.
deiter67 is offline  
Old 09-14-2014, 03:29 PM
  #10  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Pitot heat, what's to eat?
Posts: 392
Default

Originally Posted by deiter67 View Post
OK Brainiac, how did APA have anything to do with this decision? Please enlighten me oh wise one.
3 posts, you're off to a great start tossing the insults into a civil discussion.

APA negotiated the contract at American that has DH as 100% Pay and Credit. LCC had 50% Pay No Credit.

The MOU signed by both LCC and AA pilots adopts the AA contract almost in its entirety. Including the 100% Pay and Credit negotiated by APA. I suppose USAPA could have fought it but I don't see why they would, it's an improvement for most of the pilot group (100% pay) and as noted results in more pilots in seats which makes everybody a little more senior.
ackattacker is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices