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09-17-2014, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Hueypilot
Would be nice if the 321 paid the same as the 757. Same number of seats give or take. I think DAL pays Group III for the 321.
09-17-2014, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
As a Delta guy, I have no idea what a Group III plane is, the only groups we have are WB and NB. Also, we don't have an A321 rate in the PWA. The company has ordered some, but still needs to negotiate a pay rate. Probably gonna happen in the C15 negotiation.
09-18-2014, 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by algflyr
Well apparently your "NB" and "WB" rates are different within each group. Group III refers to a pay band. Do all "WB" planes at Delta pay the same? If so, then the pay rates at APC are wrong... It shows a 747 pays more than a 767... Both "WB" aircraft.
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09-18-2014, 07:46 AM
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I guess my point wasn't to get mired down into how each company breaks out their pay rates, but to point out that although UAL doesn't operate any 321s, if they did, they would pay the same as a 757...which makes sense because the 321 is almost the same size as the 757.
Most of the 757-200s seat right around 200 pax. Our A321s seat 187...close enough in my book. You'll also notice that UAL's 737-8 rates are the same as the 757, for probably the same reason.
Most of the 757-200s seat right around 200 pax. Our A321s seat 187...close enough in my book. You'll also notice that UAL's 737-8 rates are the same as the 757, for probably the same reason.
09-18-2014, 08:04 AM
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The JCBA is supposed to be cost neutral. People don't' seem to realize if we get more money in one area it's got to come at the expense of another. I don't like it either but the MOU makes it clear that the pie is going to be the same size and the only thing allowed to change are the size of slices.
09-18-2014, 08:17 AM
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That is true...although, if the company accepts the APA proposal of DAL pay rates now plus 3% for the next 3 years, that puts off the true DAL parity that would have happened in 2016...and if DAL gets a big raise in 2015, the company would be saving a great deal over the length of this JCBA...so maybe that's where the profit sharing $ would come from, etc.
09-18-2014, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Hueypilot
That is true...although, if the company accepts the APA proposal of DAL pay rates now plus 3% for the next 3 years, that puts off the true DAL parity that would have happened in 2016...and if DAL gets a big raise in 2015, the company would be saving a great deal over the length of this JCBA...so maybe that's where the profit sharing $ would come from, etc.
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