Then that is what he will get...........in spades. I kinda still don't see the point of coming here to AA and claiming all those things, making all those statements just to reneg on them so fast. Sure, he bought himself some months, but now for the rest of his tenure (Kirby too), they'll be looked upon as manipulative scammers in the same light as their predecessors.

Perhaps that was the plan all along. I mean, if you had to show your crooked hand at some point, this would the time you'd have to do it. Again IMO, arbitration at least gives us the opportunity to emotionally disengage from Parker and his airline before getting too involved and emotionally invested in seeing it not only succeed, but dominate. Take what we get there, mind our own business and let him make it on his own..........

 

Take it one step farther. If you wanna trade its gonna cost you.
As in 2 50-seater-seat for 1 70-seater-seat (2for1) plus QoL improvements.
A straight trade (1for1) still gives them a win.


Ain't no free lunches.

 

What about the three card monte game they're playing with the "Delta" pay offer ? What about complete ignorance of the other issues ? What about the fact AA pilots will lag Delta significantly in all respects including pay, scheduling and other areas ? Even Spirit, Jet Blue and others have pay scales better then ours and work rules too. What about all the things Parker represtned over the last weeks and months and now this ?

Can you.................no, WOULD YOU really ever trust this guy to play fair and live up to anything he said ?

I think you need to accept that Parker's vision for us is a Walmart low-cost labor existence with massive outsourcing.

 

Agreed. I think this is all B.S. and clearly a waste of time. I think the prevailing thought (barring any significant changes) is to go to arbitration with the MOU and if they mix a few things up, it still comes out cost-neutral. Still get 2016 pay bump, he can suck eggs on scope (and any future cooperation) and move on and let him run his airline with minimal effort from the pilots.........the old AA ran that way for years.

 

Completely disagree with that.
As professionals we still strive to do a good/great job on a daily basis. We have sweat equity invested in the airline and want to see it prosper. None of us want to live/work in a broken down house/airline. That is exactly what management is counting on and the WILL use it against us. As long as the metal moves and profits keep coming in, they couldn't care less about employee moral and motovation.
I have seen it time and time again, like a broken record.
(On my 5th 121 carrier and 1 foreign carrier)

 

I really hope you're wrong and the APA can come to an agreement without giving up seats to the regionals, but I suspect you're right. I just don't see Parker agreeing to anything without some kind of concession on scope, and like I said before - I'd rather take arbitration and the MOU if that's the case.

 

I'm not referring to individual beliefs. Yes, many employees will give 110% even when treated poorly. I'm referring more in essence of overall morale. AA has traditionally been the poster-child for bad employee relations and like it or not, its product quality suffered in most areas as a result. To claim there is no relationship between the two is misguided. My point is the "new" AA is on track to be no different then the old.....and the old AA is just as much a known quantity as the "new" Parker now is.

Now, that may be just fine with Parker, no argument there. I guess if he's okay with that, then he is. At present, I expect after initial semi-giddiness and stunning profitability, AA will follow UAL and its old problems will resurface and the critics (and likely customers) will voice the same old complaints. AA's new paint will lose its pepsi can luster and wallow back to its previous mediocrity. I see that almost on a daily basis now in many ways if you really look. Just like life, most of this is all really an illusion anyway.

 

That's funny! I got a good laugh out of that. The problem now is that this pilot group will take you literally!!

 

How do you propose I do that?

 

This is A LOT more then just about "seats" or scope. It was about someone who said one thing and demonstrated it was all B.S.

Regardless of what happens, that's almost impossible to fix. Anderson on the other hand not only talks the talk, but walks it too. I had high hopes for Parker (with some skepticism), but they've been erased. Remember, just like Horton had his anti-union junk yard dog Brundage, Parker has Glass. Anderson doesn't need that nonsense.....too busy building something real (and more likely to reap long-term reward) instead of playing manipulating con games.