Union said AA lineholders flying more than DL and UA lineholders. Cutting pilots would increase that. I'd guess the projected job cuts are wildly pessimistic.

 

What nobody has mentioned yet is that the pilot retirement schedule more than takes care of the staffing issues over the next decade. They will still need to hire despite any efficiencies that pbs, combined statuses, etc bring.

 

My opinion is kinda midde of the road. It's a fact PBS is more efficient and allows management to do more with less and that kicks in in 2016, I believe. It's why most managements want it and is about to become "industry standard". The combination of International and Domestic would also SEEM to produce efficiencies, but almost certainly less then PBS. If we go to arbitration, then this issue is most likely off the table, so for it to be a contributory factor, we'd have to have a deal outside of arbitration. If it does occur it too would also be in full swing sometime next year.

Combined, they would very likely require less pilots. The question is then based on the retirement schedule would this result in no hiring and little movement ?

That's tough to quantify. In the short term once those factors are implemented, quite possibly. Over the long-term like 10 years as 73 points out, the retirement schedule is too fast and hiring would have to occur unless of course, AA were to shrink or some unforeseen political or economic (frequently they are hand-in-hand) situation would again produce the cyclical impact that this industry has ALWAYS had. If I were to place a bet, I'd say hiring will remain, but be modest in 2015 at say 40/month and then for an undetermined period of time the factors discussed would be an impact, but to what degree is speculation. After a few years though, AA would have to hire and in ever increasing numbers, unless those unforeseen circumstances impact it.

I wouldn't let this concern impact those applying or worried about being furloughed or stagnating at the bottom should a hiccup occur in hiring/movement though.

 

while we are at it does any fellow pilots have some good investing advice?

 

Just keep telling yourself that.

 

Whatever. Doesn't affect me one way or the other if it closes or grows.

 

Until the PHX pilots displace into your domicile.

 

I'm not disputing either of you, personally, because you are absolutely correct.

However, that is the exact same argument that the AFA and USAPA put forth when the US BOS base closing was announced, and it fell upon deaf ears. And BOS was supporting the Shuttle operation at the time.

Apparently, the hotel expenses were more than offset by the savings from not paying Massport the rent on office space and employee parking, not having to pay management pilots and their office staff, etc.

And if anybody in management actually comes out and says that they're not planning any changes to your base, that's when you should start looking for a realtor.

"We have no plans to further downsize Pittsburgh".

 

How long does a long call have to call back scheduling? I was given a no contact for not calling back after 10mins. Thought I had 2 hours?

 

LAX is growing fast with all the int'l stuff especially the A380's. Soon, they'll have to start cutting gates, two per year.

Pretty much every airline there wants to make it a hub. The way it's going no one will be able to.

PHX might have to stick around.