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Old 01-30-2015 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ERflyer
Too late now but I believe it's called delayed gratification as you'd make more a year from now.

Also, the B-scale was started by AMR. We are tied together in this industry whether we like it or not. The mistakes by one are felt by all.
Are we tied together?

One word... Comair.
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Old 01-30-2015 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by bigscrillywilli
I'm going to demand a recount either way!!
Thank you for the reminder. There is no way to ever prove it wasn't rigged by some savvy programmers (on DUI's pay roll, or APA's). We have all been passionate about something we have absolutely no control over, in more ways than we care to admit.
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Old 01-30-2015 | 06:47 AM
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UAL and DAL have historically been paid well above AA and have had much better contracts to boot. AA will even have rates above them for the time being yet people still are causing a fit. It's no secret that of the top carriers AA was in the bottom until the Airways bankruptcy deals. DAL and UAL have paid better overall long term and yet they continue to get raises. I wouldn't worry about what they think, they have a very limited understanding about how the rate reset even works.
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Old 01-30-2015 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by inline five
UAL and DAL have historically been paid well above AA and have had much better contracts to boot. AA will even have rates above them for the time being yet people still are causing a fit. It's no secret that of the top carriers AA was in the bottom until the Airways bankruptcy deals. DAL and UAL have paid better overall long term and yet they continue to get raises. I wouldn't worry about what they think, they have a very limited understanding about how the rate reset even works.
Interesting thay you chose to type that AA will have rates above them, yet you don't mention that our W2's won't be above them even for the one year our rates will be.

Why did you type it like that?
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Old 01-30-2015 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Saabs
Interesting thay you chose to type that AA will have rates above them, yet you don't mention that our W2's won't be above them even for the one year our rates will be.

Why did you type it like that?
Because it's true.

But voting no would leave us with a subpar contract and rates the average of the other two. We're going to be further behind voting no than yes.

On a recent union phone call the negotiators were essentially begging guys to vote yes. All this fear that people have come up with is completely unfounded.

When does this end? I forgot. I thought it was 930 am central, correct?
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Old 01-30-2015 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by inline five
Because it's true.

But voting no would leave us with a subpar contract and rates the average of the other two. We're going to be further behind voting no than yes.

On a recent union phone call the negotiators were essentially begging guys to vote yes. All this fear that people have come up with is completely unfounded.

When does this end? I forgot. I thought it was 930 am central, correct?
I want it to be over with too.

But my W2 is more important than my payrate. Just don't want people to fall for payrates.
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Old 01-30-2015 | 07:11 AM
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Well it passed... it's official

66/34, 94% turnout.

Who was closest? I'd go back and look but I'm too busy ordering my new pool

Edit: Looks like Silverandsore nailed it on page 1.
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Old 01-30-2015 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ackattacker
Well it passed... it's official

66/34, 94% turnout.

Who was closest? I'd go back and look but I'm too busy ordering my new pool

Edit: Looks like Silverandsore nailed it on page 1.
Haha how much do pools cost?

Congrats to the yes voters. While I think this is bad long term the majority voted for it. So be it.

Most importantly texaspilot can finally pay his bills!
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Old 01-30-2015 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Saabs
Haha how much do pools cost?

Congrats to the yes voters. While I think this is bad long term the majority voted for it. So be it.

Most importantly texaspilot can finally pay his bills!

Too bad the LA Reps didn't have the integrity to live by that adage when the BOD passed the counter offer.

Too bad Wilson didn't live by it, but chose instead to invent his own negotiating ultimatum (nothing but retropay letter to Kirby).

Now that the subversives have clawed on top, everyone has to have integrity.. now. (NewsFlash to subversives... The no voters have had integrity all along. )

On the bright side, there are fewer Sky Flowers among us than I thought.
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Old 01-30-2015 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Saabs
I want it to be over with too.

But my W2 is more important than my payrate. Just don't want people to fall for payrates.
More pay per hour usually means it takes less hours to get what you want to financially out of the company.

I have zero interest in this 85 hour garbage.
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