You see the letter from Wilder then one from Bradford as a smooth coordinated attack? Man, you.have more faith in them than me! Looks like the IlKeystone Cops.

Good night.

It appears the 9th foook-ed up by shhiteing its dairy air in the MB process even though the MB statute was never really at issue in its court. The ensuing chaos is the natural result. The unluster#uc}ing will not occur anytime soon.

Really? You are kind of out of options Purple. En Banc rarely convenes and when they do they only overturn less than 1% and usually on cases that would otherwise be heading for the SCOTUS.

This case isn't heading for the SCOTUS. It's over.

"uncluster#uc}ing" will happen this week.


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True, but you already have an East committee under the APA. The fact that they chose to be the puppet of USAPA to this point is their choosing.

There is no DFR. You have a committee and they walked away.


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It seems the East committee and the USAPA leadership are not in lock-step coordination with messages of these letters. Of course, maybe that's exactly to appearance they want to give with these statements, i.e., that they aren't REALLY acting in unison ?

Then again, the East committee confirms it is the "USAPA" committee of which West pilots were still a part of. It's anazing what USAPA can **** into a cocked hat.

How is the panel going to proceed with a MB process? If they don't need USAPA then press ahead!!

Good luck.

Read the letters more carefully and ask yourself what USAPA affirms and doesn't affirm. And ask yourself about the extent of the Arb Panel authorities.

Nowhere in the MB process does it require USAPA to participate. USAPA got that right through the protocol agreement. The 9th said that USAPA's participation must be limited to advocacy for the Nic. The East merger committee is actually part of the APA, but they are also bound by the 9th's ruling as they represent the East pilots.

If the East committee chooses not to participate, that's their choice. Same with USAPA. IMHO, if the East committee joins with the West and let's Jeff Freund represent the whole LUS side, that would probably provide the best outcome for the East pilots.

So the APA lets the west have a committee because they don't think the east can effectively represent them, then they turn around and let the west represent me? Yeah, no potential DFR there.

You are right. USAPA no longer represents me. That's how the APA(and you) wanted it. You got it.

USAPA does represent you and they are doing it well. Read the letters more carefully.

What does "disavow" mean, and what does it not mean? Nobody said Wilder's letter is untrue, and nobody has denied the impact the truths have on the panel.

Again, if the Arb Panel can proceed and ensure a legitimate MB process then by all means they should!!