And they fulfilled it.

It's not static.

Many third listers faired better with West SLI proposal. If an "East" committee must advocate the NIC, then essentially many 3rd's are in a better position. Lastly, if it is decided a new East committee must be included, then what's to say a 3rd lister, or a few for that manner, do not volunteer or are added to that committee. 3rd listers are not just going to lie on the floor next to the fireplace waiting for scraps,while everyone else fights at the dinner table. We have to live with the new list a lot longer than any other group.

USAPA is not our union and does not dictate the outcome. If USAPA is a sunk ship, how are they tied to it? USAPA took itself out. The 3rd lister are still here, and just like everyone else, really have no control of where this goes. In the end it up to the MB Arb, isn't it?

Do not worry about third listers, in 10yrs we will be far past this and in much better positions once the circus end and becomes a history lesson to remind us what not to do.

it is when it comes to the arbitration, their dfr was done when they gave you a committee and funded it, then the apa was out of dfr business re: sli. The Mou/pa are very specific about who participates in the sli, as a matter of fact usapa forced an arb claiming only they could participate, now they walk away? good luck with that

Only change is that East will not actively argue against the Nic.
Panel will proceed with MB as planned. IMHO
In reality the only reason usapa existed was to oppose the Nic and the gag order makes their existence moot.
But I am a simple man with a simple mind waiting for forum schooling

I don't think you are far off.

R57 is about to give you his first of many lectures. Stand by. :D

There is a much larger picture here that's being missed. The east committee pulled out, this is not a surprise to anyone as that's their MO. The fact of the matter is with the 9th's ruling there is no need for an east committee as they are already represented via the previous award. The east sought a do over and that has failed. The 9th gave them the opportunity to be present but limited that presence to advancing the award. This tells us that the east is represented via the award itself

Now if I had to guess and its a wild one at that I would think that the panel is going to use the nic list BUT here is the catch to that. I think the first 2000 spots are going to go to AA for their wide bodies. Now this also presents some problem when it comes to the LUS wide's but I can see a way out for that.

WD at AWA

Agreed. In our (East/West) arbitration the East was given the first several hundred spots for their small wide body fleet. It makes sense that with American's "Superior,":D wide body fleet they'd get a considerable amount of the top spots.

- I think I agree with that part of your statement up until "I can see a way out"- which I don't necessarily disagree with- I just am not sure what you mean.