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RSQHercPilot 03-26-2016 01:25 PM

can anyone recommend a company for interview prep and resume/application review that is best directed at American?

andrewtac 03-26-2016 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by RSQHercPilot (Post 2097071)
can anyone recommend a company for interview prep and resume/application review that is best directed at American?

EC worked well for me.

swaayze 03-28-2016 07:08 AM

Emerald Coast is excellent and semi-tailored to your scheduled interview based on the info/feedback they have. You also have the option to re-attend and/or do phone prep. Well worth the investment IMO.

Boeing314 03-28-2016 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by RSQHercPilot (Post 2097071)
can anyone recommend a company for interview prep and resume/application review that is best directed at American?

Apply to Emirates and Etihad,

Fill out the application, get your paperwork together, practice interviewing with them and then say thanks, but no thanks.

You will then be 100% ready for every US Airline interview after that. ;)

Sliceback 03-31-2016 10:36 AM

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Hercdaddy22 07-29-2016 10:01 AM

Thread bump. Anyone willing to share their credentials for those OTS who received video interview emails over the past month?

Flying101 07-30-2016 04:35 PM

AA have slowed down hiring, only 3 classes since May (May 3rd, June 21st, and July 26th).. I don't think any OTS new hires in the last few classes...

As of June 2016...

Flow (Envoy, PSA, Piedmont)- 185
Street Hire (Civilian) - 23
Street Hire Military - 75
Recalls for June - 16

Hercdaddy22 02-09-2017 12:58 PM

Bump. How many OTS folks are getting interviews? What are the backgrounds/credentials? I would assume still mostly fighter dudes?

DesertDog 02-09-2017 03:38 PM

I hear NAI is hiring for 787 capt. slots out of Fort Lauderdale. Check em out. If you don't make Capt right off its within reach within 18 months.

airboss 02-09-2017 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by Hercdaddy22 (Post 2298297)
Bump. How many OTS folks are getting interviews? What are the backgrounds/credentials? I would assume still mostly fighter dudes?



Recently it seems like 70/30 Military vs Civilian.
Military is balanced Fighters/Bombers vs Tanker/Transport.

nemed 02-09-2017 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by Hercdaddy22 (Post 2298297)
Bump. How many OTS folks are getting interviews? What are the backgrounds/credentials? I would assume still mostly fighter dudes?

I'm an OTS civilian interviewee.
7000TT
1000TPIC
Currently flying corporate, regionals previously. I believe I was the only civilian in my interview group and most were fighter pilots.

F2TH 02-10-2017 11:58 AM

Nemed, congratulations! That is a huge accomplishment. I sent you a PM.

tothebigblue 02-11-2017 06:13 AM

Can you OTS new hires shed some light on your application process?
Does American still require you to create and apply online the company website as well as do the airline pilot credentials or just the credentials site? When I click on the pilot section under careers it just goes directly to the credentials sight and no sign of applying on the AA site. Thx

bababouey 02-11-2017 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by tothebigblue (Post 2299313)
Can you OTS new hires shed some light on your application process?
Does American still require you to create and apply online the company website as well as do the airline pilot credentials or just the credentials site? When I click on the pilot section under careers it just goes directly to the credentials sight and no sign of applying on the AA site. Thx

Just the pilot credentials website.

nemed 02-11-2017 08:12 AM

I only applied on the pilot credentials site. Updated my app every month for about 6 months and then got the invite for the video interview. The next day got an email requesting more info. The day after that got an email for a face to face interview 2 weeks later. My interview group has been waiting for a week and half for the outcome.

tothebigblue 02-11-2017 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by nemed (Post 2299384)
I only applied on the pilot credentials site. Updated my app every month for about 6 months and then got the invite for the video interview. The next day got an email requesting more info. The day after that got an email for a face to face interview 2 weeks later. My interview group has been waiting for a week and half for the outcome.

Sweet thanks.
What were your credentials for ots? I don't see myself being hired as as FO in a non wholly owned carrier, but it's nice to see some off the street guys getting a slot and not just the flow guys.

tothebigblue 02-11-2017 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by tothebigblue (Post 2299395)
Sweet thanks.
What were your credentials for ots? I don't see myself being hired as as FO in a non wholly owned carrier, but it's nice to see some off the street guys getting a slot and not just the flow guys.

Disregard, didnt RTFQ!

slim550 02-13-2017 08:06 AM

Any recent insight into the video interview portion?
Thanks!

CenterlinePrep 02-13-2017 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by slim550 (Post 2300641)
Any recent insight into the video interview portion?
Thanks!

Slim,

The gouge on the video Skype has not changed.

We have a full mock practice setup in our AA packet for clients that includes each question. It allows you to practice the video portion on your own computer, as many times as you would like, until taking the actual one.

Centerline Interview Consulting

flysooner9 02-13-2017 12:18 PM

Who should a cover letter be addressed to at AA?

Mover 02-13-2017 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 2300857)
Who should a cover letter be addressed to at AA?

You don't need a cover letter.

flysooner9 02-13-2017 01:19 PM

I may not need one but i doubt it hurts.

Mover 02-13-2017 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 2300897)
I may not need one but i doubt it hurts.

Sure, if you want to waste your time. It's not one of the documents listed in the attachments section of pilotcredentials either.

flysooner9 02-13-2017 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by Mover (Post 2300899)
Sure, if you want to waste your time. It's not one of the documents listed in the attachments section of pilotcredentials either.

Nope, but there is an "other" option.

Mover 02-13-2017 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 2300903)
Nope, but there is an "other" option.

Unless they specifically ask for it, there's no point in sending documents they don't need. Attention to detail is important.

flysooner9 02-13-2017 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by Mover (Post 2300950)
Unless they specifically ask for it, there's no point in sending documents they don't need. Attention to detail is important.

and so is making yourself stand out from the thousands of other generic applications.

Mover 02-13-2017 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 2300952)
and so is making yourself stand out from the thousands of other generic applications.

That's not how the hiring process works.

flysooner9 02-13-2017 03:11 PM

Maybe not, and I guess you have it figured out since it appears you work at AA. Would it honestly be negative points though?

flysooner9 02-13-2017 03:13 PM

Also please share more information on how the hiring process works. Is it strictly a numbers game then?

Adanac 02-13-2017 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 2300857)
Who should a cover letter be addressed to at AA?

Mine said "To whom this may concern".

I also uploaded it to the "other" section as you mentioned, printed it out along with a resume at Women in Aviation to hand to the recruiters, and had it on hand during my interview as well.

I was hired and although I'm sure it wasn't because I had a cover letter...as you also mentioned...I'm sure it doesn't hurt.

Good luck and have fun! :)

Clint 02-14-2017 02:40 AM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 2300952)
and so is making yourself stand out from the thousands of other generic applications.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...19d3cc1ed5.jpg

If they wanted it, they would ask for it. If it was a useful optional item, everybody else would be doing it. You're asking for questions and not listening to the answers.

As far as how they decide who gets called over others, anybody who is not on the hiring board is just taking an educated guess. My personal opinion is that there is some sort of algorithm that scores your accomplishments and elevates certain profiles so that the actual resume is read by a human. There's no telling how much weight is given to something like Instructor Hours versus attending WIA, but I'd wager money that the font and cover letter on your resume don't mean jack.

Mover 02-14-2017 04:18 AM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 2300981)
Maybe not, and I guess you have it figured out since it appears you work at AA. Would it honestly be negative points though?

I don't know about negative points, but I have a feeling it would either go straight to the shredder or not even be looked at.

If they don't ask for it, don't do it. It's pretty simple. Remember, your app is screened by a computer and an HR company first. They are sifting through thousands of applicants. You will get the call if your app meets whatever wickets they've set up. It is not like a corporate gig where a chief pilot is manually scoring each app.

PRS Guitars 02-14-2017 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by Mover (Post 2301283)
I don't know about negative points, but I have a feeling it would either go straight to the shredder or not even be looked at.

If they don't ask for it, don't do it. It's pretty simple. Remember, your app is screened by a computer and an HR company first. They are sifting through thousands of applicants. You will get the call if your app meets whatever wickets they've set up. It is not like a corporate gig where a chief pilot is manually scoring each app.


I think you guys are all over thinking it. Does it help? Probably not, does it hurt? Probably not.

I'm old school, I've written a cover letter for every job I've ever applied to. I also refuse to use a resume longer than 1 page. With the airlines, I didn't submit the letter with my app, but had a custom letter for every airline at the job fairs I attended. I also printed one up to turn in with the rest of my stuff at US Airways. It was not required. The guy I gave it to, read it, and it sparked a conversation for what that's worth. I'm not familiar with AA's hiring though.

Mover 02-14-2017 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by PRS Guitars (Post 2301446)
I think you guys are all over thinking it. Does it help? Probably not, does it hurt? Probably not.

I'm old school, I've written a cover letter for every job I've ever applied to. I also refuse to use a resume longer than 1 page. With the airlines, I didn't submit the letter with my app, but had a custom letter for every airline at the job fairs I attended. I also printed one up to turn in with the rest of my stuff at US Airways. It was not required. The guy I gave it to, read it, and it sparked a conversation for what that's worth. I'm not familiar with AA's hiring though.

It won't come up at any point in the hiring process at AA. Once you meet their computer screening criteria, you'll be invited for a video interview and then if you pass, a face to face interview.

On the day of the interview, all they want to see is the specific list of items they ask for. I had an entire binder made to give to them (including an updated resume) and they didn't want it. They just want exactly what they ask you to bring nothing more or less

It's not over-thinking, just following directions. Do what they say. It's not hard.

clandestine 02-14-2017 12:34 PM

...and for the face to face portion itself they didn't allow me to bring anything with me so anything I brought was left behind I the waiting area. Only thing they had on the table when it was my turn was my logbooks. Great process overall!

PRS Guitars 02-14-2017 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by Mover (Post 2301510)

It's not over-thinking, just following directions. Do what they say. It's not hard.

Not sure if that's aimed at me, I already work here...

Mover 02-14-2017 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by PRS Guitars (Post 2301737)
Not sure if that's aimed at me, I already work here...

No, it wasn't.

Arado 234 02-14-2017 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by Boeing314 (Post 2097951)
Apply to Emirates and Etihad,

Fill out the application, get your paperwork together, practice interviewing with them and then say thanks, but no thanks.

You will then be 100% ready for every US Airline interview after that. ;)

Don't forget Cathay Pacific. My hardest interview to date. The definition of anal.

LuckyNow 02-15-2017 04:00 AM


Originally Posted by Arado 234 (Post 2301995)
The definition of anal.

Yikes! That does sound like a hard interview.

Arado 234 02-15-2017 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by LuckyNow (Post 2302037)
Yikes! That does sound like a hard interview.

"Why did you not find employment after 11 September?"

I can't post what I was thinking when I heard that question.


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