OTS new hires
 

Just wondering what the off the street new hires look like at American, background and experience? Thanks

The interview group on Dec 8/9 were all military. A few were current 121 regional/jet blue types, some recent retired, most were still current ang/reserves. 50/50 mix between fighter and heavy.

I know at least 16 were hired, have not heard from the other 4.

Any chance the OTS crowd can provide flight times, number of letters of rec, job fairs, etc?

Yes, this would be interesting to see.

1775 total
400 civlian / 1375 mil
CFII
Mil IP fighter
2 letters of rec
No job fair
No intern
No AA family member

Very excited!

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Congrats! Welcome aboard. Do you have a class date or have you just been placed into the pool?

Started class today and they really talked about volunteer work. If your off the street get it on your app.

Class drop? Any US Air guys?

37 total pilot. 21 of whom are various flow-throughs.

All LAA equipment.

17 LGA 320, 10 LGA 737, 10 MIA 737

19 January class is all LAA equipment too, don't have the drop yet.

Did you put it as employment?

Where did you get that? 7 Pilots were giving LUS side? We were told MIA NYC and then 190 PHL? Now you got me worried.:eek: Find out tomorrow.

And the next class if Feb. 16th not 19th. Where are you getting your info?

Congrats.

I noticed on the pilotcredentials website, under the demographics section there is a yes/no box that asks "are you now or have you ever been a fighter pilot?"

I am guessing that AA really loves anyone who ever flew fighters since it is the only airline which asks this question directly.

Or does it just easily explain a lower TT vs. the years of professional experience?

Good point. I found it to be an oddly-placed question. It was right below the disabled/protected veteran status and the section that asks you if you're in the demographic of "other than a white male."

Would have thought it would be in the qualifications section where they ask about NATOPS, Check Airman, Stan Eval, etc.

I heard it from someone in the schoolhouse last week. I am almost certain the bases and equipment I have given are correct. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I am 100% positive that 19 Jan is all LAA.

I'll post what they give today. Honestly I could care less but I'd be shocked if they gave all LAA in this class after they sent us email telling 7 of us we we're given LUS side.

I'm sure fleet planning might have something to do with it and with LAA getting Airbus/Boeing Deliveries it wouldn't surprise me if we all went LAA. Especially when they said they were getting almost 4 planes a month this year.

It wouldn't surprise me either. It's been a while since we've had any positive news on the LUS side. It doesn't look like the E190 FOs who are coming up on a year will have anywhere else to go. I'd be impressed if we take on any more.

So on that note, let us all bow our heads in prayer that we are all truly integrated as a pilot group by the end of the year.

Volunteer work, huh? Is this the new way to eliminate some of the 16,000 some odd applications in the system? Hopefully it's not a show stopper. I'd love to volunteer my time, but some people work 60 hours a week. I volunteer my time to the family on the weekends... :)

Volunteering -

It doesn't have to be Mother Teresa stuff. T-ball coaching counts. The list of what people do is interesting.

The percentage that do nothing is in the low single digits. Very low single digits.

If you got an email saying US, I'd believe that over what I heard. I heard an equipment drop that seemed consistent with the class size. I also know a 19 Jan OTS that received an email from Patty saying that the entirety of that class was LAA, so that led me to believe the equipment drop I heard was correct. We'll know soon. (Enjoy your dinner!)

17 LGA bus
10 LGA 73
10 MIA 73

6/7 Phl 190

Handful of 9/11 recalls.
Big class

Can anyone chime in regarding where to include volunteer work on the AA app? I've heard guys in the past adding it to work history/employment?

Wow!

No LUS AB at all?

Flights have definitely cancelled due to lack of FOs.

I was kinda hoping. No dice.

IIRC, they haven't given out an LUS AB to a new hire in well over a year. Just 190's and then a slow trickle of 190 guys move to the AB.

Of the ones that get 190, do most seem to bid off at first chance? I'd have to weigh a second year on Category 1 FO pay vs. long term training. I just wondered if guys were hanging out on it hoping to upgrade fast. Correct me if I'm wrong but it's a few years to hold left seat in that, yes?

Volunteer work? You gotta be kidding me. This is a job not a college application.

Navy buddy went to one of those conferences/conventions, was told you might want to do some community service. :confused::confused::confused:

Funny thing is, military guys are trained to go out and kill people because our politicians cannot figure things out and in order to get hired, they want a Boy Scout on their resume.

I'd say that everyone except the top ten on the 190 bid off, either to 190 CA or more likely to AB F/O. The problem is, there aren't a lot of vacancies on the LUS side, so some guys are getting stuck in the right seat.

The pay difference is $40 so most jump ship. Used to be you'd jump straight into a secondary line, but that's not the case anymore. I'm at the start of my third year and barely holding a secondary in PHL. Lots of former 190 guys on reserve.

What is your concern with training? It's easy...

I don't like it either, none of their business what we do on our time. Hell, we have people who need to focus a lot more on serving the customer, let alone serving people in a soup kitchen.

Most guys probably greatly exaggerate their volunteer activity.

That ridiculous. I'm sure that guy had been on numerous deployments away from his family. If that isn't community service, I don't know what is.

I wonder if the wholly owned carriers are requiring volunteer work on the resume to get hired since a WO new hire will eventually be at mainline.

I'm not concerned with training as much as I hate being in DFW any longer than I have to. I was asking because I have a buddy in the pool who grew up in Delaware and was hoping to get PHL, but he wasn't sure if he'd move up the ranks quickly in the 190.

Those WO carriers require 1500 and a pulse. They can't afford to be picky like the legacies can.

Sorry if it hurts anyone's feelings but the military guys, almost without exception, volunteer.

And no one has any obligation to try and meet the standards a future employer might have. That's the beauty of freedom of choice.

He would and the 190 has just over a 1 year upgrade. Off reserve probably in 3 months.

There's always Delta, United, JetBlue and Southwest.

That's only because they need OPR bullets to get promoted.

I had a commanding officer mandate it (yes in addition to flying 5 days a week and 2 weekends a month, we had to either 1) Take Grad School courses or 2) do volunteer work) for all of his pilots if they wanted to be competitive in he squadron.

And they wonder why there's about a 70% attrition rate right now of separation eligible pilots in the USAF. Curtis Lemay is rolling in his grave...