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Old 07-22-2016, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Vendetta View Post
East can't bid laa wide bodies for 4 years. West can't bid east wide bodies for 4 years. West can't bid laa wide bodies for 4 years. Yes bird is very clear. After it comes out I'll tell you who the bird was...
That might sting with the A350's being deferred. Oh well.
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Old 07-22-2016, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Sandhawk View Post
The E/W integration was done almost a decade ago. If there are fences, it will be between the AA & US equipment. There will not be a fence between E & W.
Really? Does the west bid on east vacancies? No. Where have you been?
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Old 07-22-2016, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Vendetta View Post
After 33 years here I have no reason to make up stuff on weboards... I'm just saying what I heard and its someone I would trust alot
Not doubting that. Those involved are very reluctant to give out the list due to concerns of it being traced back to them (have the arbs put traps in each of the list handed out). So all information is word of mouth and not written so it can't be tracked.

As a result some information is incomplete and becomes conflicting.
Some of your details vary from what I've heard but without having a copy of the decision and just getting limited information as well I'm not sure which of our birds has completely described the decision more accurately or completely In general being told the same as you though.
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Old 07-22-2016, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Upsddown View Post
Not doubting that. Those involved are very reluctant to give out the list due to concerns of it being traced back to them (have the arbs put traps in each of the list handed out). So all information is word of mouth and not written so it can't be tracked.

As a result some information is incomplete and becomes conflicting.
Some of your details vary from what I've heard but without having a copy of the decision and just getting limited information as well I'm not sure which of our birds has completely described the decision more accurately or completely In general being told the same as you though.
It's not hard to understand 4 year fences group 4s to the groups that brought them. You wanted 3 lists so we have 3 lists this is the price u pay for getting rid of usapa(who you can no longer sue). We have been seperate for years can you bid Charlotte a330? I know most of you guys are in denial and had you 330/777 manuals in had but at the end of the day the arbs still followed the mb law. Not a cult religion seniority award that was only able to be enforced with a joint contract before the mou was signed. Let's all get honest...
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Old 07-22-2016, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Upsddown View Post
Not doubting that. Those involved are very reluctant to give out the list due to concerns of it being traced back to them (have the arbs put traps in each of the list handed out). So all information is word of mouth and not written so it can't be tracked.

As a result some information is incomplete and becomes conflicting.
Some of your details vary from what I've heard but without having a copy of the decision and just getting limited information as well I'm not sure which of our birds has completely described the decision more accurately or completely In general being told the same as you though.
Dude that's over there just waiting till August 5th right when the stock market closes...
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Old 07-22-2016, 06:24 AM
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It's official, the West are the biggest whiners that ever lived. Both here and C&R. They make out no matter what. Crummy airline to a global airline with wide bodies and NOT tacked on to the bottom of the list. Windfall.
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Old 07-22-2016, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Vendetta View Post
It's not hard to understand 4 year fences group 4s to the groups that brought them. You wanted 3 lists so we have 3 lists this is the price u pay for getting rid of usapa(who you can no longer sue). We have been seperate for years can you bid Charlotte a330? I know most of you guys are in denial and had you 330/777 manuals in had but at the end of the day the arbs still followed the mb law. Not a cult religion seniority award that was only able to be enforced with a joint contract before the mou was signed. Let's all get honest...
Ouch! Wake up on the wrong side of the bed?

I totally agree. The MB required that previous mergers didn't apply. MOU stated three list. Arbs were spot on.
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Old 07-22-2016, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Upsddown View Post
Ouch! Wake up on the wrong side of the bed?

I totally agree. The MB required that previous mergers didn't apply. MOU stated three list. Arbs were spot on.
I woke up on the group 4 captain side of the bed.. How hot is in in Phoenix?? I suggest u invest in panic attack meds when this comes out , i mean only if you think the nic will be used.
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Old 07-22-2016, 06:27 AM
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Supp CC survive?
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Old 07-22-2016, 06:39 AM
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I woke up on the group 4 captain side of the bed.. How hot is in in Phoenix?? I suggest u invest in panic attack meds when this comes out , i mean only if you think the nic will be used.
Don't live in PHX. Not based out of PHX. Not flying a Group II airplane.

Your group IV? Thought you were flying A320. That's a group II airplane.
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