EPSIC to publish names of non-contributors
08-08-2016, 02:21 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by esadof
Well they have delivered the east such a sli victory, killing the Nic. etc. why wouldn't every eastie contribute?
08-08-2016, 02:24 PM
#12
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Originally Posted by donny
Forcing somebody to donate isn't a donation. It's extortion.
The committee has no way of knowing what sort of financial situation our pilots are in. What if someone has medical expenses for a special needs child? The list can go on and on. It's none of their business and they have no right to threaten anybody with public shaming.
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The committee has no way of knowing what sort of financial situation our pilots are in. What if someone has medical expenses for a special needs child? The list can go on and on. It's none of their business and they have no right to threaten anybody with public shaming.
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The majority of east pilots have not excuse, but agree this is a bad idea.
08-08-2016, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack Russell
The publishing of such a list could indeed be grounds for various types of action. It could easily be considered a retaliatory tool that creates a hostile work environment for those listed and thus the avenue for response could be both a Human Resources complaint with the company and if necessary, a civil suit.
Are you a west pilot? Cactus pilot.com has. A list of contributors. If your name is not on that list, then what's the difference in having it on a non-contributor list? The tie is a form of pressure and against the rules in FM1.
All the above are good reasons it's a bad idea.
08-08-2016, 02:39 PM
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Nope. The west has a list of pilots who have contributed above certain targets. Gold, Platinum, and Titanium I believe. There are many who have contributed lesser amounts that are not on the list. The idea of posting a list of non contributors was brought up several times but deemed to be a bad idea. Certain people are dealing with extraordinary financial difficulties for whatever reason and shaming fellow pilots just weakens the cause.
08-08-2016, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Laker24
Nope. The west has a list of pilots who have contributed above certain targets. Gold, Platinum, and Titanium I believe. There are many who have contributed lesser amounts that are not on the list. The idea of posting a list of non contributors was brought up several times but deemed to be a bad idea. Certain people are dealing with extraordinary financial difficulties for whatever reason and shaming fellow pilots just weakens the cause.
Okay, thanks for that info. I was wrong, and it's not really relevant to this issue. I've got to hand it to the west guys, you've funded your cause and you have great communications.
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08-08-2016, 04:29 PM
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2015 new. So whatever you want to call us. No dog in the fight whatsoever.
But regardless I totally disagree with bullying as a way to strong arm people into cooperation.
It's extremely off putting to any cause.
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But regardless I totally disagree with bullying as a way to strong arm people into cooperation.
It's extremely off putting to any cause.
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08-08-2016, 04:57 PM
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Funding Update
Since the previous update, 254 additional pilots have contributed toward seniority integration expenses. That’s now 1,360 pilots trying to carry the load for a total of 3,065 pilots. Many contributing pilots have asked that we publish the list of contributors and non-contributors. We are in the process of compiling the complete list.
The East Pilots are still between $125,000 and $150,000 short, based on our best estimate of total expenses. If you haven't contributed to the defense of your seniority, now is the time to do it. Please make a contribution of $200, or whatever you can, to:
East Pilots SIC Fund
APA/EPSIC
P.O. Box 155249
Fort Worth, Texas76155
Paypal
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/websc...=SVLLRREQJX4NS
http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr...=ACLAE3C9RK34L
http://www.goo.gl/FKA1Z2
http://EASTFUND.newAAexhibits.com
HOLY SHIESE... I TELL YOU WHAT, THIS IS A WAY TO GET PEOPLE NOT TO CONTRIBUTE
Since the previous update, 254 additional pilots have contributed toward seniority integration expenses. That’s now 1,360 pilots trying to carry the load for a total of 3,065 pilots. Many contributing pilots have asked that we publish the list of contributors and non-contributors. We are in the process of compiling the complete list.
The East Pilots are still between $125,000 and $150,000 short, based on our best estimate of total expenses. If you haven't contributed to the defense of your seniority, now is the time to do it. Please make a contribution of $200, or whatever you can, to:
East Pilots SIC Fund
APA/EPSIC
P.O. Box 155249
Fort Worth, Texas76155
Paypal
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/websc...=SVLLRREQJX4NS
http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr...=ACLAE3C9RK34L
http://www.goo.gl/FKA1Z2
http://EASTFUND.newAAexhibits.com
HOLY SHIESE... I TELL YOU WHAT, THIS IS A WAY TO GET PEOPLE NOT TO CONTRIBUTE
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