How is that trying to divide the pilot group? I was curious/happy for him. So F off.

Just happy to see guys getting the opportunity to move around.

F*ck slice. He specifically said he floated for the money. He can deal with the flack. He's a big boy.

How hard is it to mentor a new hire? It's not like he did anything miraculous no one else has already done. Plenty of us would be willing to mentor.

Ummm... you are usually the voice of reason and optimism on here and I appreciate it. And agree with fact that we don't know everyone's individual situation, so not fair to always throw rocks...

But, as for Slice, he straight up said it. It was a "ponzi scheme" and he did math and wants the $.

Glad he helped you and others, good on him. There are many volunteers in the Compass Project though, myself included. And we all help new hires. But on this issue, he only cared about himself and union be damned. I, like many others, I could have benefited from floating also. But our Union asked and 75% of us acted in unity. Slice... not so much.

Yes,

There are nuances that need to passed to a new hire, especially former military. It's important that they are mentored correctly, regarding union vs management issues. And yes, I was/am military, I had no mentor here, but asked Captains a ton of questions.

Floated 14 days last year, 0 this year. Already planning our vacations out.

You don't seem happy about anything from the bulk of your posts so I assumed it was intended to stoke the flames. My mistake. You must be a real pleasure to fly with.

I am awesome to fly with. Take my word for it[emoji851]

Me not living in a fantasy land and understanding the issues facing our pilot group does not make me unhappy. It makes me educated.

I didn't float. I had to bid the first week in Dec to make sure I got off for my step-daughter's wedding, so thought my years vacation was shot. Not so. I got that, 1 week in April, 1 Sept and 1 Oct. Would have liked one in June, but no real biggie. Otherwise I got what I wanted and glad that I will be off more, unlike 2016 when I couldn't drop much and mostly got paid extra for the float.

Did the no float help me get the dates I wanted? I don't know, but many did not float as asked and I'll take that as a win. One we needed.

As for Slice-I understand the frustration, he's made me hit my head against the wall a few times on C&R. But my wife does too and I don't want to throw her out. I don't think he is the kind to be won over by throwing rocks at him. He is very fact/data driven and I think he will look at how this worked and make his own decision on whether his action was a good idea or not. But he has provided a lot of info. on here and C&R.

Here's something I don't understand. There was a guy on C&R proudly proclaiming his no float. He says he doesn't pick up straight time just premium. I don't get that. If we wanted to make a statement, it seems that not flying premium would be the greatest statement we could make. We are paid for our time, and when the company offers premium, not flying it would make the biggest statement. "AA, it's not worth my time..."

Pilots, like most people, will proclaim how what they want to do is the greatest. I'm as guilty as anyone. But float is far from the greatest whoring out there.

Thoughts?

With regards to slice it doesn't matter what conclusion he came to or what he bases his decision on. We need to unite and he was flat out asked to do something and decided not to. If he never comes back I'll take over his spot as the de facto new hire info guy[emoji87]

I get the not picking up straight time argument. If no one picked anything up at straight time then we would obviously need more pilots or they'd have to offer more premium.

The fact is the union didn't tell us not to pick up straight time (they can't legally). But they did ask us not to float. So sounds like that guy is just trying to justify his decision to float.

During the months we have vacation and bid reserve does using the 4 VEX days effect the monthly pay at all?