Connect and get the inside scoop on Airline Companies

Welcome to Airline Pilot Forums - Connect and get the inside scoop on Airline Companies

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ. Join our community today and start interacting with existing members. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free.


User Tag List

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-18-2021, 08:17 PM   #81  
In a land of unicorns
 
dera's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: 175 FO
Posts: 4,116
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CRJJ View Post
Who is complaining?. This is a forum and we exchange opinions. Count how many times I've said I'm not grateful in previous posts. Quite the contrary.
I still can talk about career progression and future.
Take the fastest upgrade. 121 PIC is king. A heavy type is almost worthless if you can't tick the 121 PIC box too in your application.
This assuming you are looking to move on from Atlas. I know you are enjoying it there so if you wish to stay there as a career, then go heavy.
dera is offline  
Old 04-19-2021, 09:08 AM   #82  
New Hire
 
Joined APC: Jan 2021
Position: Captain
Posts: 2
Default TPIC 121 Heavy time ?

Ive got over 11,000 and Atlas hasn't contacted me?
viking avenger is offline  
Old 04-19-2021, 11:46 AM   #83  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Globemaster2827's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 1,000
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by viking avenger View Post
Ive got over 11,000 and Atlas hasn't contacted me?
I've got a feeling that 12 months from now they're gonna be back to begging people to apply...
Globemaster2827 is offline  
Old 04-19-2021, 01:24 PM   #84  
Gets Weekends Off
 
NoJoy's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2005
Position: LAMA/P180/747
Posts: 406
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 View Post
I've got a feeling that 12 months from now they're gonna be back to begging people to apply...
Unfortunately your probably 1000% Correct.

But NOT begging people to stay-they won’t really care one way or another.
NoJoy is offline  
Old 04-19-2021, 03:33 PM   #85  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Flydafe's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2019
Posts: 241
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Globemaster2827 View Post
I've got a feeling that 12 months from now they're gonna be back to begging people to apply...
If they take care of business with these contract negotiations then it could get really interesting. What if they realize that they need to keep their staffing strong due to Amazon growth or maybe Amazon even upping the pay scale to secure their feed. Hopefully the pilot group and everyone else gets a strong pay raise and somehow the company improves on QOL items
Flydafe is offline  
Old 04-19-2021, 04:43 PM   #86  
Gets Weekends Off
 
MD-11Loader's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Pawn
Posts: 1,138
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flydafe View Post
If they take care of business with these contract negotiations then it could get really interesting. What if they realize that they need to keep their staffing strong due to Amazon growth or maybe Amazon even upping the pay scale to secure their feed. Hopefully the pilot group and everyone else gets a strong pay raise and somehow the company improves on QOL items
Does Atlas actually have a reason to work with IBT after the decision comes out and the new contract is put together? It seems like they are filling classes and have no shortage of candidates, so why should they care about retention? I have an upcoming class date and also have an interview from a LCC. What is my motivation to go to 5Y other than heavy time? More so what is my motivation to stay when hiring is picking up across the industry?
MD-11Loader is offline  
Old 04-19-2021, 10:52 PM   #87  
Gets Weekends Off
 
NoJoy's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2005
Position: LAMA/P180/747
Posts: 406
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MD-11Loader View Post
Does Atlas actually have a reason to work with IBT after the decision comes out and the new contract is put together? It seems like they are filling classes and have no shortage of candidates, so why should they care about retention? I have an upcoming class date and also have an interview from a LCC. What is my motivation to go to 5Y other than heavy time? More so what is my motivation to stay when hiring is picking up across the industry?

As it stands now? Zero motivation to stay. If a pilot is fortunate to get picked up by another airline that pays 50% more and has a better 401k match or even a pension, that would be the way to go.
Atlas pilots will have a better idea when a contract is signed. Maybe by the end of this year.
Or sometime next year. Right now NO ONE here knows for sure.
NoJoy is offline  
Old 04-20-2021, 06:24 AM   #88  
Gets Weekends Off
 
zerozero's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 448
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NoJoy View Post
Atlas pilots will have a better idea when a contract is signed.
This is the correct answer.

Right now, you make LONG TERM decisions based on the objective information in hand TODAY. For the last five years, there has been too much uncertainty in the job at Atlas/Southern. Everything from the pilot contract itself, to various customers and the executive leadership playing musical chairs.

If you get an offer at a LCC with a LONG TERM business plan, then you go there for a career move. Atlas is fine to check a box. A lot of Atlas/Southern crews have checked the 121 worldwide PIC box and gone on to have LONG TERM careers at UPS, FDX, etc.

If you don't get an offer at a LCC, then you stick around Atlas/Southern until you see how things shake out or you get a better offer from some other place.
zerozero is offline  
Old 04-20-2021, 09:13 AM   #89  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Flydafe's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2019
Posts: 241
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by zerozero View Post
This is the correct answer.

Right now, you make LONG TERM decisions based on the objective information in hand TODAY. For the last five years, there has been too much uncertainty in the job at Atlas/Southern. Everything from the pilot contract itself, to various customers and the executive leadership playing musical chairs.

If you get an offer at a LCC with a LONG TERM business plan, then you go there for a career move. Atlas is fine to check a box. A lot of Atlas/Southern crews have checked the 121 worldwide PIC box and gone on to have LONG TERM careers at UPS, FDX, etc.

If you don't get an offer at a LCC, then you stick around Atlas/Southern until you see how things shake out or you get a better offer from some other place.
Atlas or regional airline with a quick upgrade?
Flydafe is offline  
Old 04-20-2021, 09:30 AM   #90  
Gets Weekends Off
 
NoJoy's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2005
Position: LAMA/P180/747
Posts: 406
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flydafe View Post
Atlas or regional airline with a quick upgrade?
Which regional? For Atlas/Southern it looks like the 737 followed by the 767 as far as upgrades are concerned.
Timeframe for the 767; about 3-5 years. That can change year to year. 737 should be less.

Last edited by NoJoy; 04-20-2021 at 09:44 AM.
NoJoy is offline  
 
 
 

 
Post Reply
 



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Atlas Air Hiring 1st Supersonic Atlas/Polar/Southern 17800 05-09-2021 12:56 PM
Oil's up. oldmako United 103 10-25-2019 12:02 PM
Marine Corps raising Pilot Retention Bonuses AirBear Military 34 07-23-2018 07:39 PM
Direct Air files for bankruptcy trent890 Charter 17 04-15-2012 06:39 AM
banner year for Air Cargo Freighter Captain Cargo 0 07-09-2005 09:27 PM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:04 AM.