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sandman22 10-30-2019 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by Screwed (Post 2914925)
HELL NO !

Either they give us a really good CBA or let this POS airline burn to the ground. With each passing day my hatred for the senior management of this ****hole grows.

Management blames labor unrest for their pathetic performance. If anything the pilots have been neutered by the courts and arbi-traitors.

They will see what real labor unrest is if they impose an arbi-traitor CBA on us.

I feel ya brother

Turbine1 10-30-2019 04:38 PM

Continuing zero progress at the usual 3 days of negotiations per month. However a new lawsuit announced by our CEO against the pilot group today after 3rd qtr earnings miss of over 70% and a beat down by the analysts on the earnings call. They actually waited a whole 2 hours after the call to announce the lawsuit to compel the Teamsters to fork over a combined seniority list immediately. Don’t worry about established seniority integration law. Allegheny Mohawk anyone? Naw, just hand it over so we can start the 9 month pretend negotiate period so we can shove another bottom of the industry CBA down your throats and gut your scope even more in arbitration.

They actually said they want to negotiate scope last...so the clock will run out and that goes to Arbitration. Like last time the arbitrator will give the company everything they want, which will be sure to eliminate all remaining job protections for the pilots.

By the time “negotiations” roll around again a decade from now most or all of the aircraft will have been dry leased to Titan, Kalitta, ATI. No more pesky pilot group to deal with.

Three classes of 24 each planned in the next two months to backfill all the resignations to airlines that actually pay a professional wage. Fresh furlough bait is always welcome.

Globemaster2827 10-30-2019 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by Turbine1 (Post 2915250)
Continuing zero progress at the usual 3 days of negotiations per month. However a new lawsuit announced by our CEO against the pilot group today after 3rd qtr earnings miss of over 70% and a beat down by the analysts on the earnings call. They actually waited a whole 2 hours after the call to announce the lawsuit to compel the Teamsters to fork over a combined seniority list immediately. Don’t worry about established seniority integration law. Allegheny Mohawk anyone? Naw, just hand it over so we can start the 9 month pretend negotiate period so we can shove another bottom of the industry CBA down your throats and gut your scope even more in arbitration.

They actually said they want to negotiate scope last...so the clock will run out and that goes to Arbitration. Like last time the arbitrator will give the company everything they want, which will be sure to eliminate all remaining job protections for the pilots.

By the time “negotiations” roll around again a decade from now most or all of the aircraft will have been dry leased to Titan, Kalitta, ATI. No more pesky pilot group to deal with.

Three classes of 24 each planned in the next two months to backfill all the resignations to airlines that actually pay a professional wage. Fresh furlough bait is always welcome.

Lol... What happened to no more classes this year? I guess continuously revising your forecast for block hours down has this sort of affect...

MysteriousMrX 11-06-2019 10:04 AM

Is Atlas getting more aircraft??
Surely no more 747s but how about 767s for Amazon?

BoilerUP 11-06-2019 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by MysteriousMrX (Post 2919103)
Is Atlas getting more aircraft??

Surely no more 747s but how about 767s for Amazon?



You are aware Atlas just lost two Prime Air 767s to ATSG, right?

MysteriousMrX 11-06-2019 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 2919105)
You are aware Atlas just lost two Prime Air 767s to ATSG, right?

Yes. And also aware of hearing they were getting more.. so.... which is it?

RyeMex 11-06-2019 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by MysteriousMrX (Post 2919111)
Yes. And also aware of hearing they were getting more.. so.... which is it?

There are no new aircraft on the horizon for us. However, there are pretty substantiated rumors that we will be losing more aircraft.

Globemaster2827 11-06-2019 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by RyeMex (Post 2919113)
There are no new aircraft on the horizon for us. However, there are pretty substantiated rumors that we will be losing more aircraft.

Yeah... Management can't staff what they've got and they're finally figuring out that acquiring aircraft doesn't really make sense when you have a staffing problem.

zerozero 11-06-2019 11:09 AM

Sneak peak into HDQ....

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100LL 11-07-2019 07:32 PM

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I’m just gonna leave this hear.


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