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Old 03-20-2019, 04:17 PM
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Most people add power to arrest a descent
Well I don't.
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Old 03-20-2019, 04:38 PM
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Would TOGA button being pressed be recorded on the FDR?
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Old 03-20-2019, 04:47 PM
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Would TOGA button being pressed be recorded on the FDR?
Certainly. It changes modes of the flight director, autopilot, autothrottles, thrust management system, and if the flight directors are off essentially turns them on.
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Old 03-20-2019, 05:14 PM
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Certainly. It changes modes of the flight director, autopilot, autothrottles, thrust management system, and if the flight directors are off essentially turns them on.
Thanks. Not to be nitpicky, but the actual pressing of the button would be recorded or the subsequent results? This is a weird one and I have no boeing experience
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Old 03-20-2019, 05:32 PM
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How does CWS work in the 737? In aircraft I've flown that had it, you pressed a button on the yoke and moved it. When you released the button the airplane stayed in that position. Does the 767 have this as well?
No CWS on the 767's that we fly. Not to say some don't have it. CWS is listed on the acronyms list in the beginning of the FCOM. That's the only place it's mentioned in our books.
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Old 03-20-2019, 05:40 PM
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I've given F4E a 3 day vacation so higher level discussion can occur.
THANK YOU. Geesh. There is good info on this thread but it was hard to find when some ridiculous theory is being pounded page after page
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Old 03-20-2019, 05:42 PM
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How does CWS work in the 737? In aircraft I've flown that had it, you pressed a button on the yoke and moved it. When you released the button the airplane stayed in that position. Does the 767 have this as well?
On the 737 you can push the button and engage it, OR push the control column and at a certain threshold it’ll default to CWS. OR, you doof up the box and it no longer has a path to follow. OR, there is some sort of dual FMC failure. It’s not a pretty mode in most cases, but it can be useful for dv8ing around weather.
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Old 03-20-2019, 06:00 PM
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My mistake on the 2500’ RA, got that note from an Avionics guy but I can not confirm it any more!

Always willing to admit when I’m wrong, even after 20 years on this bird. Either way the NTSB will sort it out and produce a report.
No Taz, flaps out of zero. Or up! Before some maniac Airbus/Boeing nut job starts splitting hair
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Old 03-20-2019, 07:05 PM
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F4e needs to understand the difference between flying on the backside of the power curve and the front side, and how absolutely ridiculous it is to think you'd fly a jet on the back side.
Regardless of the cause of the accident, I hope it drives new training standards that emphasize and rewards good hand flying skills with less reliance of automation, and creates a mandate to limit the amount of automation that doesn't give the pilots the final authority. Engineers do NOT know better than line pilots.
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Old 03-20-2019, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes View Post
Well I don't.
Hopefully no fixed wing pilot does!😊
Unless you are trying to make a smooth vertical landing in a F35, Harrier or an Osprey...
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