flyalear

not sure if this was posted but read towards the end of 34

https://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/...-texas-34.html

No Land 3

Holy crap!

Globemaster2827

There's a post in there that's pretty close to what I'm hearing. If true there will be a pretty nasty investigation into the training history of the FO.... And into hiring practices at Atlas. Ultimately it's all rumor until we see the final report but I'm expecting one of the nastiest investigations in NTSB History.

People are asking how these things can happen... There's a pilot shortage and managers are going to make sure that they have warm bodies in seats. Period.

dogo

Bud it’s not just Atlas. The FAA is looking into other ACMI hiring practices as well. I have a feeling Amazon’s expansion has hit a huge speed bump.

MX727

Anyone that has ever looked at FOQA data would not be surprised at how crews have managed to get themselves into an unusual attitude. It is an industry problem.

Globemaster2827

Just listening to the Lieutenants around the squadron it's happening at the Regionals too. As a society we need to make a conscious decision as to whether we want to pay our pilots like bus drivers for 20 years to get cheap Labor or do we want to pay them like Doctors and be safe.

Managers at the Regionals and ACMI have gotten away with this for years and changed their surplus of labor into a shortage by manipulating the Railway Labor Act. Now that they've driven so many pilots away they'll staff their airlines with people who've washed out of program after program so long as their airline is staffed.

Obviously that isn't safe but the Media will have the details on this one. Who knows what they'll do with it... I speculate that it's not an issue to them because they get cheap Amazon products and want to keep it that way until an Amazon airplane crashes into their kid's elementary school.

veewan

How about the regionals that are offering jobs over the phone. No face to face interview.

veewan

It barely missed Houston city limits. Had they pushed it over any later we would have been taking about the buildings and people on the ground it took out.

Globemaster2827

I'm hearing a rumor out of the Atlas Pilot Group that a guy opened a Yoga Studio 10 years ago after dropping out of Aviation and was cold called by Atlas for a Job recently.

All Pilots aren't equal. It takes years of training and experience to make a great pilot... but when Amazon is offering you $66 million what do you care as long as you don't end up in jail?

Blackhawk

This.
I think CommuteAir 4933 is the canary in the coal mine but no one is listening. Pilots on the regional side are looking at 18 month upgrades as unreasonable. Seriously... wait an entire 18 months to be a captain??? That’s crap.
There are new hires acting as instructors at some regionals. Majors are bypassing senior pilots and hiring junior pilots in their 20’s.