Atlas pilots to get arbitrated contract.
08-29-2019, 06:38 AM
#61
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Originally Posted by Cicada
Only way out now is to de certify your bargaining agent. Then you escape the arbitration of your former bargaining agent. It's how the USAirways East pilots successfully evaded their Nicolau Award.
That being said leaving teamsters would be wise.
08-29-2019, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy
Avoided the nic, And got NOTHING for a decade. I believe the dollar amount of compensation lost is in the billions.
That being said leaving teamsters would be wise.
That being said leaving teamsters would be wise.
08-29-2019, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy
Avoided the nic, And got NOTHING for a decade. I believe the dollar amount of compensation lost is in the billions.
That being said leaving teamsters would be wise.
That being said leaving teamsters would be wise.
08-29-2019, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
Politics has less to do with your odds of getting released than the size of the company. A strike by a small company like Atlas isn’t quite the impact on the economy as a strike by Delta or United. A strike vote by the pilots at Delta or United is just a show of unity and a way to beat their chest publicly, but management and the investors know that a strike will never be allowed, and therefore not a real threat. Atlas is different. A small company has the real potential of being released, and therefore a strike vote is something for the management and investors to take seriously.
As to theory of party interference with a pilot strike, history doesn’t fit the narrative that a group is more likely to be able to strike under a Democrat than a Republican. Eastern, United, Continental, Comair, and Polar all walked with no presidential interference under Republican administrations. American and Spirit both struck under Democrats. President Clinton immediately stopped the American strike, and President Obama did not interfere with Spirit.
As to theory of party interference with a pilot strike, history doesn’t fit the narrative that a group is more likely to be able to strike under a Democrat than a Republican. Eastern, United, Continental, Comair, and Polar all walked with no presidential interference under Republican administrations. American and Spirit both struck under Democrats. President Clinton immediately stopped the American strike, and President Obama did not interfere with Spirit.
08-29-2019, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
AAWW (Atlas, Polar, Southern) is the second largest cargo carrier worldwide, behind on FedEx. AAWW also flies passengers: mostly military and sports teams, to include a number of NFL teams...
08-29-2019, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
AAWW (Atlas, Polar, Southern) is the second largest cargo carrier worldwide, behind on FedEx. AAWW also flies passengers: mostly military and sports teams, to include a number of NFL teams...
"Imagine a Christmas without Amazon"
08-29-2019, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Jet
Not only that, but like the Judge said in the ABX injunction...
"Imagine a Christmas without Amazon"
"Imagine a Christmas without Amazon"
Yep. Gotta get our cheap junk on time. Glad the judicial system is looking out for the important issues of the people. ‘Murica
08-29-2019, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Tango Uniform
What about forming your own union like the IPA at UPS? UPS is the largest Teamster shop on the planet, yet the pilot group chose to form their own union. A very successful union too.
I’m all for an in-house Union.
IF we can get the right MEC to do their job properly.
As we all know, the Union is only as strong as it’s MEC.
08-29-2019, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TikkleMe
Why doesn’t the entire pilot group come together and put in their collective ‘2 weeks notice’?
Just shut em down!
Just shut em down!
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