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Old 01-09-2021, 07:48 PM
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*Every pilot on the planet points to their wallet*
I was going to say where their pockets are located....
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What about the ones with Aerologic?

I don’t know anything about Aeroligic. I only know the TNT ones are now flown by FedEx pilots. On a similar note, FedEx just acquired another 777 from Etihad.

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I don’t know anything about Aeroligic. I only know the TNT ones are now flown by FedEx pilots. On a similar note, FedEx just acquired another 777 from Etihad.

https://cargofacts.com/allposts/busi...-etihad/?amp=1

wow...I didn't know anyone was getting rid of their freighters
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wow...I didn't know anyone was getting rid of their freighters
Desperate for cash.
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Is Amazon positioning itself to be the next FEDEX? They’ve been buying up more 767 and taking up conversion slots.
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Is Amazon positioning itself to be the next FEDEX? They’ve been buying up more 767 and taking up conversion slots.
No offense, but people who keep asking this question really don't understand how Amazon is using their aircraft.

(Disclaimer: sometime IN THE FUTURE, Amazon may resemble FDX or UPS, but right now they do not.)

Amazon is using their air operation simply to reduce their COSTS--not to make a PROFIT. Furthermore, Amazon is using their aircraft to move goods that supply their fulfillment centers. It's not a hub and spoke, overnight operation like FDX and UPS. This is why the Amazon fleet flys primarily during the day, and not overnight.

Could all of that change IN THE FUTURE, of course. But as the operation runs today, in my opinion, this does not rival FDX or UPS, it simply gives Amazon more CONTROL and saves them MONEY.
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No offense, but people who keep asking this question really don't understand how Amazon is using their aircraft.

(Disclaimer: sometime IN THE FUTURE, Amazon may resemble FDX or UPS, but right now they do not.)

Amazon is using their air operation simply to reduce their COSTS--not to make a PROFIT. Furthermore, Amazon is using their aircraft to move goods that supply their fulfillment centers. It's not a hub and spoke, overnight operation like FDX and UPS. This is why the Amazon fleet flys primarily during the day, and not overnight.

Could all of that change IN THE FUTURE, of course. But as the operation runs today, in my opinion, this does not rival FDX or UPS, it simply gives Amazon more CONTROL and saves them MONEY.


agreed... if amazon is to meet their stated goal of ASAP (my words - faster than overnight) delivery, their operation will inevitably resemble FDX/UPS/DHL - BUT - it won’t be an identical operation with regards to aircraft usage. I believe the aircraft will continue to be used to fill the gap that is created by ground & sea logistics at the fulfillment centers.
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Old 01-10-2021, 10:17 AM
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After seeing what they’re building in cvg, it sure looks like it’s gonna be a hub and spoke operation pretty soon. Take a look at the types of people they’re hiring too. The jobs and job descriptions have some Interesting stuff.
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FreightTech 25: FedEx Ramps Up IT For Next Year's e-Commerce Wars

FreightWaves
December 30, 2020
FedEx Corp. (NYSE: FDX) turns 50 in 2021, and the anniversary year promises to be one of its most pivotal in decades.

Aside from the daily skirmishes with ancient archrival UPS Inc. (NYSE: UPS), FedEx is gearing up for an all-out war with former customer Amazon.com Inc. (NASDAQ: AMZN) over the fulfillment and delivery of hundreds of millions of parcels that don't flow through the e-tail giant's network. Amazon plans to expand into third-party deliveries in 2021 after the COVID-19 pandemic delayed the initiative by a year.

Crossing swords with Amazon, not to mention slugging it out with UPS, is likely to define FedEx's next 50 years. It also requires that FedEx step up its e-commerce game and raise its already-formidable IT capabilities to unprecedented levels.

E-commerce customers will demand to receive deliveries exactly when and where they want them. For example, it will be commonplace for a consumer sitting on a park bench to order an item and receive it within the hour at that location. Fulfilling the "park bench" transaction will require delivery agility and precision never seen before. Amazon and UPS have made it clear that parcel precision will be the name of their games in 2021 and beyond.

To its credit, FedEx did anything but stand pat in 2020. For that, the Memphis, Tennessee-based company landed at No. 24 on the FreightTech 25 for 2021.

In May, FedEx and IT giant Microsoft Corp. (Nasdaq: MSFT) launched FedEx Surround, the first project of a multiyear alliance between the two firms. The program is designed to provide deep, near-real-time detail of each step in a package's journey by combining FedEx's visibility technology with Microsoft's suite of artificial intelligence, machine learning and predictive analytics capabilities. The plan is to enable FedEx customers "the opportunity to intervene early and act to avoid logistical slowdowns" before they occur, the companies said at the time.

In September, FedEx unveiled a Bluetooth-enabled tracking device called SenseAware ID capable of transmitting package location data every two seconds via Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE) to WiFi access points or gateway devices across the FedEx Express network. FedEx Express is the parent's air express and international business unit.

Packages equipped with the devices are tracked hundreds of times during their journey, FedEx said. The technology was rolled out just ahead of the planned delivery of COVID-19 vaccines, and will be instrumental in ensuring the shipments are delivered to their intended destinations and kept intact at proper temperatures, FedEx said. Use of the technology will be expanded during the first half of 2021 to FedEx Express customers.

To support the technology, FedEx created FedEx Dataworks, which will serve as the marketing and customer-facing focus of its ramped-up e-commerce efforts.
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FreightTech 25: FedEx Ramps Up IT For Next Year's e-Commerce Wars

FreightWaves
December 30, 2020
FedEx Corp. (NYSE: FDX) turns 50 in 2021, and the anniversary year promises to be one of its most pivotal in decades.

Aside from the daily skirmishes with ancient archrival UPS Inc. (NYSE: UPS), FedEx is gearing up for an all-out war with former customer Amazon.com Inc. (NASDAQ: AMZN) over the fulfillment and delivery of hundreds of millions of parcels that don't flow through the e-tail giant's network. Amazon plans to expand into third-party deliveries in 2021 after the COVID-19 pandemic delayed the initiative by a year.

Crossing swords with Amazon, not to mention slugging it out with UPS, is likely to define FedEx's next 50 years. It also requires that FedEx step up its e-commerce game and raise its already-formidable IT capabilities to unprecedented levels.

E-commerce customers will demand to receive deliveries exactly when and where they want them. For example, it will be commonplace for a consumer sitting on a park bench to order an item and receive it within the hour at that location. Fulfilling the "park bench" transaction will require delivery agility and precision never seen before. Amazon and UPS have made it clear that parcel precision will be the name of their games in 2021 and beyond.

To its credit, FedEx did anything but stand pat in 2020. For that, the Memphis, Tennessee-based company landed at No. 24 on the FreightTech 25 for 2021.

In May, FedEx and IT giant Microsoft Corp. (Nasdaq: MSFT) launched FedEx Surround, the first project of a multiyear alliance between the two firms. The program is designed to provide deep, near-real-time detail of each step in a package's journey by combining FedEx's visibility technology with Microsoft's suite of artificial intelligence, machine learning and predictive analytics capabilities. The plan is to enable FedEx customers "the opportunity to intervene early and act to avoid logistical slowdowns" before they occur, the companies said at the time.

In September, FedEx unveiled a Bluetooth-enabled tracking device called SenseAware ID capable of transmitting package location data every two seconds via Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE) to WiFi access points or gateway devices across the FedEx Express network. FedEx Express is the parent's air express and international business unit.

Packages equipped with the devices are tracked hundreds of times during their journey, FedEx said. The technology was rolled out just ahead of the planned delivery of COVID-19 vaccines, and will be instrumental in ensuring the shipments are delivered to their intended destinations and kept intact at proper temperatures, FedEx said. Use of the technology will be expanded during the first half of 2021 to FedEx Express customers.

To support the technology, FedEx created FedEx Dataworks, which will serve as the marketing and customer-facing focus of its ramped-up e-commerce efforts.
Interesting article, but it fails to account for the role that will be played by UPS’ ultimate arch-nemesis, the USPS. The USPS may be twice as old as UPS and date to our country’s founding, but it plays an outsize role in how UPS, FEDEX, and Amazon operate. It isn’t going away and has far stronger support in Congress than any of its private competitors.
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