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09-05-2021, 12:12 AM

#31

paulhood

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Originally Posted by iahflyr

If Atlas really is having a hard time filling classes, why not drop hiring mins to 1500 hours?

I was hired last year and about half of my class had less than 1500 hours, so I am not sure that is a requirement, or perhaps they had a waiver?

09-05-2021, 01:20 AM

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dera

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Originally Posted by paulhood

I was hired last year and about half of my class had less than 1500 hours, so I am not sure that is a requirement, or perhaps they had a waiver?

Which fleet?

09-05-2021, 04:17 AM

#33

Swakid8

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Originally Posted by dera

Which fleet?

good question, my guess would the 737.

09-06-2021, 03:51 PM

#34

Ptyflyier

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Anyone care to share what has been TA'd? I see some previous comments regarding a few things been TA'd but don't see any specifics.

09-06-2021, 05:36 PM

#35

paulhood

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Originally Posted by dera

Which fleet?

Yes sir, the B737

09-06-2021, 06:16 PM

#36

RyeMex

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Originally Posted by Ptyflyier

Anyone care to share what has been TA'd? I see some previous comments regarding a few things been TA'd but don't see any specifics.

The following articles were TA'd during negotiations:

Article 8: Deadheading
Article 9: Miscellaneous Flying
Article 10: Management & Non-Flying Duty
Article 12: Hours of Service
Article 15: Physical Standards
Article 16: Workers' Compensation Benefits
Article 17: Missing, Internment, Hostage
Article 18: Union Representation
Article 19: Discipline, Discharge, & Probation
Article 20: Grievance Procedure
Article 21: System Board of Adjustment
Article 22: Seniority
Article 23: Furlough and Recall
Article 24: Filling of Vacancies
Article 29: Union Security & Check-off
Article 30: Uniforms
Article 31: Reserve Crew Members
Article 33: CRAF & Hostile Area Operations

This Represents TAs on 18 of the 35 total Articles to be included in the new CBA.

09-06-2021, 06:22 PM

#37

RyeMex

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Originally Posted by paulhood

I was hired last year and about half of my class had less than 1500 hours, so I am not sure that is a requirement, or perhaps they had a waiver?

Per our FOM, a full ATP and 1500 hours of flight are required to be hired onto the 767 / 777 / 747 fleets. The flight time requirements for the 737 correspond to the requirements for a R-ATP.

09-06-2021, 08:54 PM

#38

dera

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Originally Posted by RyeMex

And approximately 75% or so of all items inside the articles not on the list.

09-06-2021, 09:02 PM

#39

WhipWhitaker

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Originally Posted by dera

And approximately 75% or so of all items inside the articles not on the list.

Man for a newhire you have a ton of inside info.

09-06-2021, 09:04 PM

#40

dera

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Originally Posted by WhipWhitaker

Man for a newhire you have a ton of inside info.

Not inside info at all, all the proposed articles including those that are not 100% agreed on are available at the union website. Most items are marked as Agreed but if there is even just one that is open, the article is then listed as not TAd.

For example, Article 25, Scheduling. In almost 40 pages, there are only maybe 10 paragraphs that are still open. The arbitrator won't touch the agreed on parts, just the open bits.

Last edited by dera; 09-06-2021 at 09:14 PM.