R1, R2, R3, Secondary, VTO
02-24-2024, 07:58 PM
#11
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Joined APC: Oct 2007
Position: Sr. VP of button pushing
Posts: 2,730
""CRT. Calculated Rig Time, this is where a post graduate degree in Pilot Compensation would help us all. For every 4.95 hours on duty, we earn 1 hour of pay credit. Duty begins at Report Time on Day One, and ends at release time on Day Last. It never stops in between. Each full 24 hours credits 4.85 hours of pay, Day one and day last will be something less than that."
I wouldn't use the word "duty." Rig is from when your schedule shows you leaving your base or an R2 or R3 period starts until you are shown to return to your base or end of your last reserve period. So even while resting you're collecting CRT pay. The contract term is "footprint." I've had DH back to base the last day and been home still on the clock. And if your schedule has recurrent training in a month you're not getting rig on the training days even though that counts as duty.
I wouldn't use the word "duty." Rig is from when your schedule shows you leaving your base or an R2 or R3 period starts until you are shown to return to your base or end of your last reserve period. So even while resting you're collecting CRT pay. The contract term is "footprint." I've had DH back to base the last day and been home still on the clock. And if your schedule has recurrent training in a month you're not getting rig on the training days even though that counts as duty.
02-24-2024, 09:09 PM
#12
On Reserve
Joined APC: Nov 2023
Position: B737
Posts: 22
Originally Posted by Clue32
30 or 60 day line just means if you were awarded a schedule for the following month or the next two months.
Bid Line Guarantee. Primary Lines will have a scheduled credit value based on the greater number of Block or CRT hours. If your schedule changes and you credit fewer hours, you still earn the BLG. If you credit more than BLG, you earn more.
OE, Operating Experience. These will be your first legs out on the line. As a new 121 pilot, you will need 40 hours and as I recall 6 legs with a Line Check Pilot, Inclusive of your Pilot Monitoring and Pilot Flying Check Rides. After OE you are released to the line to bid and fly.
Right now, with all our turn over, you can get out of ANC before you finish training in MIA.
Junior Lines are Secondary Lines. 17 Days scheduled, but you will wait at home, not in base. These should be 64 Hour MMG lines, until you are out for 13.2 full days, then CRT should start to exceed MMG.
Reserve lines are done in base. They earn CRT which is why they go more senior. The hours are not guaranteed. You could be sent home early, stopping your CRT clock.
CRT. Calculated Rig Time, this is where a post graduate degree in Pilot Compensation would help us all. For every 4.95 hours on duty, we earn 1 hour of pay credit. Duty begins at Report Time on Day One, and ends at release time on Day Last. It never stops in between. Each full 24 hours credits 4.85 hours of pay, Day one and day last will be something less than that.
Block hours are obviously your flight time, from Block in to block out. If you have a short flight from say, CVG to MIA, you would only block a bit over two hours. But what about the pre and post flight, what about the commute to and from the hotel, what about the flight packet review before you leave your hotel, what about studying systems and procedures, what about the Flight Crew Incident Report on the bird strike during landing... You want to be paid for that too. This is where Rig time comes in to play.
Unfortunately, we are paid by the greater sum of the monthly Block, CRT, or Minimum Guarantee. Paid by the greater sum daily would be better for us. CRT usually exceeds Block on my fleet, but any leg greater than 5 hours, or combined block of 5+, I am flying those for free. Day one and day last, my block hours are probably also being flown for free.
Hope this helps.
Bid Line Guarantee. Primary Lines will have a scheduled credit value based on the greater number of Block or CRT hours. If your schedule changes and you credit fewer hours, you still earn the BLG. If you credit more than BLG, you earn more.
OE, Operating Experience. These will be your first legs out on the line. As a new 121 pilot, you will need 40 hours and as I recall 6 legs with a Line Check Pilot, Inclusive of your Pilot Monitoring and Pilot Flying Check Rides. After OE you are released to the line to bid and fly.
Right now, with all our turn over, you can get out of ANC before you finish training in MIA.
Junior Lines are Secondary Lines. 17 Days scheduled, but you will wait at home, not in base. These should be 64 Hour MMG lines, until you are out for 13.2 full days, then CRT should start to exceed MMG.
Reserve lines are done in base. They earn CRT which is why they go more senior. The hours are not guaranteed. You could be sent home early, stopping your CRT clock.
CRT. Calculated Rig Time, this is where a post graduate degree in Pilot Compensation would help us all. For every 4.95 hours on duty, we earn 1 hour of pay credit. Duty begins at Report Time on Day One, and ends at release time on Day Last. It never stops in between. Each full 24 hours credits 4.85 hours of pay, Day one and day last will be something less than that.
Block hours are obviously your flight time, from Block in to block out. If you have a short flight from say, CVG to MIA, you would only block a bit over two hours. But what about the pre and post flight, what about the commute to and from the hotel, what about the flight packet review before you leave your hotel, what about studying systems and procedures, what about the Flight Crew Incident Report on the bird strike during landing... You want to be paid for that too. This is where Rig time comes in to play.
Unfortunately, we are paid by the greater sum of the monthly Block, CRT, or Minimum Guarantee. Paid by the greater sum daily would be better for us. CRT usually exceeds Block on my fleet, but any leg greater than 5 hours, or combined block of 5+, I am flying those for free. Day one and day last, my block hours are probably also being flown for free.
Hope this helps.
04-13-2024, 04:30 AM
#13
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2021
Posts: 37
Originally Posted by Clue32
30 or 60 day line just means if you were awarded a schedule for the following month or the next two months.
Bid Line Guarantee. Primary Lines will have a scheduled credit value based on the greater number of Block or CRT hours. If your schedule changes and you credit fewer hours, you still earn the BLG. If you credit more than BLG, you earn more.
OE, Operating Experience. These will be your first legs out on the line. As a new 121 pilot, you will need 40 hours and as I recall 6 legs with a Line Check Pilot, Inclusive of your Pilot Monitoring and Pilot Flying Check Rides. After OE you are released to the line to bid and fly.
Right now, with all our turn over, you can get out of ANC before you finish training in MIA.
Junior Lines are Secondary Lines. 17 Days scheduled, but you will wait at home, not in base. These should be 64 Hour MMG lines, until you are out for 13.2 full days, then CRT should start to exceed MMG.
Reserve lines are done in base. They earn CRT which is why they go more senior. The hours are not guaranteed. You could be sent home early, stopping your CRT clock.
CRT. Calculated Rig Time, this is where a post graduate degree in Pilot Compensation would help us all. For every 4.95 hours on duty, we earn 1 hour of pay credit. Duty begins at Report Time on Day One, and ends at release time on Day Last. It never stops in between. Each full 24 hours credits 4.85 hours of pay, Day one and day last will be something less than that.
Block hours are obviously your flight time, from Block in to block out. If you have a short flight from say, CVG to MIA, you would only block a bit over two hours. But what about the pre and post flight, what about the commute to and from the hotel, what about the flight packet review before you leave your hotel, what about studying systems and procedures, what about the Flight Crew Incident Report on the bird strike during landing... You want to be paid for that too. This is where Rig time comes in to play.
Unfortunately, we are paid by the greater sum of the monthly Block, CRT, or Minimum Guarantee. Paid by the greater sum daily would be better for us. CRT usually exceeds Block on my fleet, but any leg greater than 5 hours, or combined block of 5+, I am flying those for free. Day one and day last, my block hours are probably also being flown for free.
Hope this helps.
Bid Line Guarantee. Primary Lines will have a scheduled credit value based on the greater number of Block or CRT hours. If your schedule changes and you credit fewer hours, you still earn the BLG. If you credit more than BLG, you earn more.
OE, Operating Experience. These will be your first legs out on the line. As a new 121 pilot, you will need 40 hours and as I recall 6 legs with a Line Check Pilot, Inclusive of your Pilot Monitoring and Pilot Flying Check Rides. After OE you are released to the line to bid and fly.
Right now, with all our turn over, you can get out of ANC before you finish training in MIA.
Junior Lines are Secondary Lines. 17 Days scheduled, but you will wait at home, not in base. These should be 64 Hour MMG lines, until you are out for 13.2 full days, then CRT should start to exceed MMG.
Reserve lines are done in base. They earn CRT which is why they go more senior. The hours are not guaranteed. You could be sent home early, stopping your CRT clock.
CRT. Calculated Rig Time, this is where a post graduate degree in Pilot Compensation would help us all. For every 4.95 hours on duty, we earn 1 hour of pay credit. Duty begins at Report Time on Day One, and ends at release time on Day Last. It never stops in between. Each full 24 hours credits 4.85 hours of pay, Day one and day last will be something less than that.
Block hours are obviously your flight time, from Block in to block out. If you have a short flight from say, CVG to MIA, you would only block a bit over two hours. But what about the pre and post flight, what about the commute to and from the hotel, what about the flight packet review before you leave your hotel, what about studying systems and procedures, what about the Flight Crew Incident Report on the bird strike during landing... You want to be paid for that too. This is where Rig time comes in to play.
Unfortunately, we are paid by the greater sum of the monthly Block, CRT, or Minimum Guarantee. Paid by the greater sum daily would be better for us. CRT usually exceeds Block on my fleet, but any leg greater than 5 hours, or combined block of 5+, I am flying those for free. Day one and day last, my block hours are probably also being flown for free.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for the insight as always, Clue32. Quick question - on the 747, about how long before you're able to get awarded anything other than a secondary line? What tends to be next for junior FO's? Are 74 junior bases still ANC, LAX, CVG in that order?
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