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RyeMex 04-01-2022 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by BingoBongo (Post 3398489)
Interestingly, a bid for HHN came out today. The whole month on reserve at 130 credited hours of pay…767 drivers only, though.

Outbase positions are always announced on the first of the month. Each fleet only gets the positions available for their own fleet.

C17B74 04-01-2022 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by RyeMex (Post 3398559)
Outbase positions are always announced on the first of the month. Each fleet only gets the positions available for their own fleet.

And to further expound on the great information above: Past few months after Germany went Level 4 / Art 33 there were much less opportunities to pickup trips and it was more of an extended time off/vacation if you will. Korea/Japan last month as well. When Art 33 dissipates then things will pickup again for the outbaser is a guess. Well, May is right around the corner so we’ll see how less crews we have available- or not?

dera 04-01-2022 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by Swakid8 (Post 3398500)
If you are a 767 driver, you will only get outbase bid notifications for the 767 only. 747 has slots for the HHN outbase for May.

There are outbase spots for both HHN and ICN for 747 FOs.

Cess310 04-03-2022 09:20 AM

Credit hrs per month
 
Hello everyone, just had a question about atlas air minimum pay per month, I know it’s 64 hrs per month, but in reality are you gonna average more hrs from trip and duty rigs? Or you would have to work on your off days to make more money?

Elevation 04-03-2022 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by Cess310 (Post 3399279)
Hello everyone, just had a question about atlas air minimum pay per month, I know it’s 64 hrs per month, but in reality are you gonna average more hrs from trip and duty rigs? Or you would have to work on your off days to make more money?

No guarantee of making more than 64hrs. Realistically you can expect 70 to 75 hours, but remember there are months with training, sick, vacation, etc. Same applies to incentive/hazard pay. It comes and goes.

So if its going to be hard for you at 64hrs/month, then you may want to think before coming over.

TiredSoul 04-03-2022 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by Elevation (Post 3399294)
No guarantee of making more than 64hrs. Realistically you can expect 70 to 75 hours, but remember there are months with training, sick, vacation, etc. Same applies to incentive/hazard pay. It comes and goes.

So if its going to be hard for you at 64hrs/month, then you may want to think before coming over.

You only drop to min garantee if you’ve called in sick or conflict bid training or vacation or if you’re in training.
If you’ve been available for the required days then it’s 72hrs. (15 days x 4.85).
Cause I’m generally lazy I budget everything with 70 hrs for easy math.
Call it $6,500/month for your first year at the lowest once you hit the line.
$75,000 first year, per Diem excluded.

RyeMex 04-03-2022 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 3399392)
You only drop to min garantee if you’ve called in sick or conflict bid training or vacation or if you’re in training.
If you’ve been available for the required days then it’s 72hrs. (15 days x 4.85).
Cause I’m generally lazy I budget everything with 70 hrs for easy math.
Call it $6,500/month for your first year at the lowest once you hit the line.
$75,000 first year, per Diem excluded.

That may be true on the 74. Id say that at least 50% of 767 lines are only worth 64 hours.

C17B74 04-03-2022 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by RyeMex (Post 3399401)
That may be true on the 74. Id say that at least 50% of 767 lines are only worth 64 hours.

On that note, how many lines on the 767 are international vs domestic - approximately of course, just curious. Is one base more prone to overseas vs others? Maybe CVG and JFK are more likely over water routes vs ONT and TPA? Does CVG and ONT run the lines to Hawaii? Just info I can pass on to others. Thx for your time.

HPIC 04-03-2022 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by C17B74 (Post 3399408)
On that note, how many lines on the 767 are international vs domestic - approximately of course, just curious. Is one base more prone to overseas vs others? Maybe CVG and JFK are more likely over water routes vs ONT and TPA? Does CVG and ONT run the lines to Hawaii? Just info I can pass on to others. Thx for your time.

JFK and CVG are the only bases that typically have international flying. That can change month to month depending on what the planning department wants to put on each base. The Asia DHL run out of ICN has bounced back and forth between being on the CVG and ONT bid package, and occasionally JFK.

From what I have seen, ONT and TPA do almost exclusively domestic(unless you count SJU as international, which they do from TPA). Most if not all of the Hawaii flying goes on the ONT bid package.

Elevation 04-03-2022 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by C17B74 (Post 3399408)
On that note, how many lines on the 767 are international vs domestic - approximately of course, just curious. Is one base more prone to overseas vs others? Maybe CVG and JFK are more likely over water routes vs ONT and TPA? Does CVG and ONT run the lines to Hawaii? Just info I can pass on to others. Thx for your time.

Seems to vary. I'd guess about 1/4 of the flying on the 767 is international. International flying is usually crewed with 3 pilots while domestic is usually two pilots. So it also depends on whether you're looking at departures, lines, etc.


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