I hear the last class was mostly mil/ACMI, but also included a corporate 135 guy who'd never flown for the airlines before.

Of course, the only thing you can control is whether or not you apply. Everything else is up to HR.

Two 10 year+ RJ-only folks in class with me right now (former captains). Rest are mostly mil/acmi though. Ofcourse none of this means anything in terms of future hiring.

I see Atlas listed on the WAI Conference exhibitor list, but does anyone know if that is confirmed? Any idea if they will be doing on the spot interviews? Here's to hoping going to a job fair will help.

I'm really looking forward to some face-to-face time!

3500TT (2200 SIC in the CRJ...)

It is very much set in stone that Atlas will be at WIA. As for on the spot interviews, you can think of it as that but it will be more casual really. The booth staff will be there primarily to answer your questions, tell some stories, pretty much get to know you - you get to know us kind of stuff in the Atlas friendly way :)

There is quite a bit of into about the WIA conference on this thread, if you haven't read through it yet, I encourage you to use the search function and learn more about it. We are here to answer any questions if you can't find the answers, ask away :)

Atlas in Las Vegas March 20
 

Atlas will also be at the OBAP career fair March 20, held at the Tuscany Suites and Casino in Las Vegas.

It doesn't appear that the question has been asked yet, but how long are the lines typically for Atlas at WIA or any other job fair(rough wag)?

Would going to both be helpful to an applicant or do you think they might find it bothersome to see the same person at two different job fairs in the same month?

A friend who is in the 74 class right now visited multiple booths from multiple job fairs, when it came time for the face to face interview those that ran the booth recognized him from both conferences. Did I mention he was in class now..

Depends on the day and job fair. Last year at WIA the DL and UA lines went literally out the door of the entire conference job fair area, wrapped practically around the building ..ok almost. The lines were reportedly a 3h wait, supposedly 5h at its worst. As for Atlas..well, if you could find their booth, getting a booth last minute meant they were put in the nose bleed section, the line rarely went out to the main hallway. Atlas has once again gotten a booth at the last minute this year. There is no published map of where the booth locations are yet, that I'm aware of, but my best guess is that Atlas will be in the nose bleed section again. But think of it this way, it's like a treasure hunt, once you find the booth it will be like finding the hidden conference treasure ;)

Good question! Thank you for asking :)

I went to WIA last year and there was no line at the Atlas booth.

Get the job?

Got the call for the interview back in January but unfortunately, it was a few weeks late. Took another job I am very happy with.

Any other news/rumors?

Does anyone have the details of the scheduled pay increases in 14 and 15?

Not sure about hired, but our interview class was 50% RJ, 30% ACMI, 10% mil, 10% corporate.

YMMV

I posted this a while back...good time to bump it (current pay rates...we're DOS+2 until August or September '14):

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/hi...ml#post1520914

FWIW, I averaged over min-guarantee last year on the 767, but not a lot. Just FYI

Are you a JFK guy? I fared a bit better last year in CVG. ~72/month was about average for me I think, but I specifically bid DHL Asia regular lines (pretty stable, as you probably know).

When did you interview?

Thanks! My googlefu is clearly lacking.

Yup. That was base on 10-months last year with last 3 at JFK.

Cheers

How long after you submitted your resume did you get a call?

For those that were interviewed/hired recently, how long was it after you submitted your resume you got the invite for an interview?

Took me 3 years of continuous updates. Nobody at my interview had only applied once.

I first applied to Polar in 2006.

Regular updates to the Atlas side beginning 2010.

Interview 2013.

I got an interview about 6 months after an Atlas Captain I'd worked with walked in my particulars. The VP of flight ops said in late 2013 that 95% of new hires had an internal recommendation.

How does that occur? There have been discussions in the past that the recommendation only matters after the interview invite? Is it back to now somehow getting that recommendation to the right person in order to get the interview? :confused:

I have heard the same thing, but my buddy still shot a recommendation in internally so I'll let you know if I get a call. Going to WAI conference?

I don't doubt the 95% part, but I've had buddies text mgmt, while hanging out and they've basically said it was out of their hands. Even guys knocking on doors while in MIA asking WhatTheFu@%? Zip, Zero, Nada. Don't be confused..

Unless the Captain that walked the "particulars" in was the CP or the DO, I doubt the walk-in got him the interview (and, no, I have absolutely no idea if the CP or the DO could get you the job, so don't tell them I said they could !!! ). The only current and official info we are given is that the recs are considered after the interview. Clearly, lucky timing and persistence are the key to the initial call.

YMMV

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The last time I asked, they said a recc gives u points....25 max. Also,a recc means they will evaluate your application info before they look at someone without a recc.. My impression was that the number of points from a recc/reccs was not much relative to your total score.

Actually we do get Zed Highs on Delta and USAir for parents, kids, registered common law spouse, etc. Not a great deal but it does beat a sharp stick in the eye. And if you're super nice, a lot of other Zed carriers will honor a Zed ticket issued for a different airline....so while you may have a Zed for Delta, Lufthansa might take it...just sayin'....

Also JetBlue and Southwest are both Zed mediums for us. Miss the old service charge days :0/

We have an agreement with American. It allows you, as an employee only, to purchase full fare Y tickets but I believe you are limited to four per year..... ***?!? Whoever negotiated that agreement may have been sleeping at the switch ;0)

I stand corrected! Thanks for the info!

So Atlas Air pilot contract is up in a couple of years. Does anyone else find their retirement program a little weak? What's the likelihood of a better 401k match in the next contract. I'm just saying.

It's been discussed ad nauseam, in this very thread.

And it is one of a long list of items discussed at breakfast tables, and other venues around the world!!...

And hopefully it comes along in the process of "CBA maturity"

Exactly, John...what we have right now is this...

Both Atlas and Polar have only had one CBA that was each negotiated from scratch...then the merger. And the current CBA, even though it is NOT a made-from-scratch document, made significant gains over both the existing Atlas and Polar CBAs.

So, yes we have a long way to go to be in a so-called "mature" CBA, the likes of the Legacy carriers, or even FDX, UPS, and ABX. But with solidarity from the crews, we'll get there next time.

Remember, every decision you make the moment you leave home counts (actually, even before you leave home since they even try to violate the CBA with your Gateway/Alternate Travel arrangements!!

The company has been around over 20 years. In my opinion, there are no valid excuses as to why we are so far behind in many areas of our contract. Many of us are ready to swing for the fences during this next contract negotiation in order to make up a lot of ground and get us to parity with American, Delta, FedEx, United, and UPS. Time will tell if we can achieve what we are setting out to accomplish, but either way, you can be certain that these gains will only be possible after a long fight.

Not sure what pay rates you're looking at, but you can have American's. And don't be surprised when you see the others ratchet down in the next couple of years.

As to valid excuses...not sure how long you've been around, but I suspect not long enough to know the history. Or the fact that in terms of contracts, as was said above, this is a second contract as opposed to the ones you reference that have been in place and modified many times over decades.

If you want change and improvement, start by unifying the pilot group around a single goal...instead of everyone having their own ideas on how to do things. Management loves that.

As to the complaint in another post about retirement? 401k will always be a risk. Again, IF the group could get behind a single concept, the way to go would be to join one of the well funded and very secure IBT pension plans that has a very solid track record. But that will never happen when everyone has their own solution and it's the only correct one.

Been there, seen that and have all the t-shirts in the closet.

Just to be clear - you want us new guys to provide the solidarity that you old guys seem to lack?

From what I've seen so far, not a problem. We're fired up. How come you didn't say "if WE want change and improvement"?

Could you mind elaborating on this? I have never heard of a point system at Atlas. How many points gets you an interview? How many points does each recommendation get you? How are people even listing multiple recs? That box is only big enough for one person's name and job title.

Are there certain experiences or qualifications that have a higher emphasis on the point system? For example, would heavy time get you more points than being a regional pilot?