As someone in the pool I completely agree that this kind of info belongs here. I want to know everything I can about what I'm getting into ahead of time.

More sim time per recurrent cycle.

Whatever it may cost the company (there are more simulator periods per visit but the visits are fewer so that is mitigated somewhat) it is a boon to those of us in the trenches. We had AQP in my prior life at ATA and it was a far, far better use of time than the old 'pistol to the head' simulator mentality of the past. Even further back, in the USAF C-141 world, the approach on the pre-brief was "OK, you are Q-3. Now let's see if you can work your way out of it"! I know, I'm dating myself. ;-)

There's an extra sim period and therefore an extra day of training. So a thousand lost man days and another several hundred thousand dollars of sim expenses not to mention the attendant increase in instructor pay.

If we step to the company and say we don't want it, they'll say "Ask and you shall receive."

Not really the issue to dig in on IMO

But your ditching the PT and the day of training and travel associated with that. I was told the company really wanted AQP. Not that I'm in the know.

AQP costing the company MORE money is completely incorrect. When AQP is rolled out at an airline, the savings is around 17% of training cost on the nine month cycle. Once AQP has been established at an airline, the cycle time can increase to 12 months. At that point, a company can plan to save approximatley 6% in additional costs. The bottom line is that the company wants AQP because it helps their bottom line. Now, they may act like they don't want it but if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.

And that supports what I've been told. Even by Exco members. Again, I'm not in the know.

Unless one has a 3 or 4 digit part number, the individual is berated and talked down to (very similar to your writing style even) about every issue.

Perhaps you should pass word along that many of us have lots of 121 and union experience outside of Atlas. Perhaps our words, thoughts and ideas should not be summarily dismissed and trashed (similarly to your 'reply' to me. Other than continued display of the gross disconnect you seem to have with the majority of pilots in this company).

Springer i think we can all recognize whalefr8 is defending a sinking ship at this company as evident by his gross disconnect and a bygone dinosaur era insecurities at this once proud "club". Retirements cant come any sooner.

Awesome.

There arent that many, very few in my experience but those few notable Captians:( need to know that being a bully is unacceptable and will no longer be tollerated. I see more and more FOs that aren't afraid to write up the 1%er captian who has unsat CRM. The company cant afford to ignore it anymore. Sometimes just the statement, "Are we going to have a problem with CRM today?" :cool: changes the situation.