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Old 12-13-2015 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyinhawaiian
Has southern added AA/Delta/United to their jumpseat agreements yet? Most of the CASS info on here is quite dated...just curious if you've added any others to the list.

From another thread it looks like: ABX AIR, Inc., ATI, Centurion, APA, UPS, Atlas Air, Spirit Airlines, JetBlue, Frontier, Endeavor Air, Virgin America, Hawaiian, Fedex.
United is the only major with service to CVG that SAI can jump on.
The current list is here: http://www.southernair.com/supernumerary-travel
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Old 12-13-2015 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyinhawaiian
Has southern added AA/Delta/United to their jumpseat agreements yet? Most of the CASS info on here is quite dated...just curious if you've added any others to the list.

From another thread it looks like: ABX AIR, Inc., ATI, Centurion, APA, UPS, Atlas Air, Spirit Airlines, JetBlue, Frontier, Endeavor Air, Virgin America, Hawaiian, Fedex.
Southern has added United, and submitted everything for the combined AA.
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Old 12-13-2015 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by robthree
United is the only major with service to CVG that SAI can jump on.
The current list is here: http://www.southernair.com/supernumerary-travel
Well that helps. Didn't think to just check the homepage.
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Old 12-13-2015 | 06:24 PM
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Strikes me as amazing how much hate there is for Southern solely for the purposes of hatred. Some people really have no life.
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Old 12-13-2015 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi
Strikes me as amazing how much hate there is for Southern solely for the purposes of hatred.
If you have ever worked such a job....you would understand.
Some of us were lucky enough to escape and are trying to warn others.
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Old 12-13-2015 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi
Strikes me as amazing how much hate there is for Southern solely for the purposes of hatred. Some people really have no life.
I worked there. My hatred is real and well deserved. I have a life.
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Old 12-13-2015 | 06:59 PM
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While you both have a right to your opinion you probably don't realize there are dozens of places "worse" than Southern. Being away from home for 20-40 days at a time too much for you? Or was it something more than that?

(Oh, and before you go down the whole "management doesn't care" road I can walk up to a pilot at any airline and they will tell me the same thing, how about something original for once?)
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Old 12-13-2015 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi
While you both have a right to your opinion you probably don't realize there are dozens of places "worse" than Southern. Being away from home for 20-40 days at a time too much for you? Or was it something more than that?

(Oh, and before you go down the whole "management doesn't care" road I can walk up to a pilot at any airline and they will tell me the same thing, how about something original for once?)
Your right, I do have the right to my opinion, which I have shared on this forum and given reasons for. I never said there weren't worse places. Why are you bent over about me sharing it?

Something original? It has to be original for a place to suck??
Let's see... Besides the abysmal pay rates, the useless union who promised, "We won't sign in industry low rates in the 737" and then promptly did just that, the most incompetent scheduling I have ever seen, there was the simple fact that they purposefully hired 50 pilot for the sole purpose to have them on property to fly the 747-400 for 3-10 months while they finished out their 747-200 contracts. The plan from the beginning was the hire these pilots to furlough them within a year.

How do I know?

The CEO came into our class and told us!!

Thanks!

So yes, they can eat it.

As I have typed previously, in three months on the line approximately 1/4 of my layovers ended with no hotel simply because scheduling got the time zone or date wrong. I have shown up to airports with no transportation scheduled and no way to call HQ short of an international collect call. Yes, yes, as Birdstrikes will tell you, this was four years ago and there's no more adhoc. Fine. But it's still the same management team that orchestrated all that.

It will only get worse. And of 15 guys I know that had recall rights, only one took it.
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Old 12-13-2015 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi
Some people really have no life.
Well, those guys will love working at Southern. Because there won't be much time away from work to to enjoy it.

Originally Posted by aviatorhi
While you both have a right to your opinion you probably don't realize there are dozens of places "worse" than Southern. Being away from home for 20-40 days at a time too much for you?
Dozens? No. There are not dozens of places worse than SAI. There are a few. CA at a regional is not. FO at a regional may not be either, depending on the company and that person's individual circumstances. There are no worse places doing the same job. None. Connie may not be measurably better, but they are clearly not worse off.


Being away from home for 20 days at a time is absolutely too much to ask of my children. 40 days is too much to ask of my wife. Not paying extension pay for it is too much to ask of me.
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Old 12-13-2015 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi
While you both have a right to your opinion you probably don't realize there are dozens of places "worse" than Southern.
Technically, you're correct; here are just a few that come to mind:

Gitmo
Lahore
Hillary's waxing room (go ahead, try to erase that image from your mind)
The Sudan
Hialeah
Iraq
Satan's outhouse (never mind; already mentioned Hillary)

But as far as airlines go? When you have an exodus of mid-level seniority guys leaving Southern Air to go work for Western Global, you know you've not only hit rock bottom, you've done gone and smashed right through it.
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