PotatoChip

I was lied to in my interview and told airframes were coming and a short upgrade was very possible, and then promptly told I was likely to be furloughed on my fourth day of employment, which I was seven months later.

I don't think much has changed.

Whaledriver

I may have come across as a little harsh on our HR folks. They are simply telling you what they have been told to transmit to new hires.

Whiplash6

Probably by SA

Spike from flyi

Everyone is glad you're gone, Ken. (except for the captains at Spirit.)

Spike from flyi

Nope; Purchase.

robthree

Spike, I think you may have bombed the wrong target.

robthree

Lol. Everybody knows my bust is what got me the job. Although my 402 time was what got me through the sim. Thank God for round dials!

Southern pilots keep trickling away, while RJ pilots get vacuumed up by airlines that sell their own seats and carry their own freight as fast as they can crank them out. Southern air is not a shortcut. You can still get to the promised land, but its going to take you longer, and you're not going to like the ride.

Southern has some of the finest pilots I have ever flown with. Most of them are trying to leave.

What is it you expect to get from Southern Air that you would not get from a RJ operator, or another freight operator? The pay is not superior at SAI. Its worse and losing ground. The schedules? 20 on 10 off is not conducive to maintaining stable relationships or home life. PIC? You're never going to sit in the left seat on the 777 at SAI. Never. The company will go out of business before you have the seniority to think about an upgrade. The 737 is plausible. How junior is that seat going Bird, Spike? Is it still four to five years? that's a loooong time to suffer substandard wages and conditions just for a 737 type.

To summarize: SAI is not a desirable final destination for the vast majority of people, nor does it offer advantages vs. flying RJs to get you to a major. Most people who have been there or are currently there warn everyone not to apply, and if offered a job to not accept it.

You can do better almost anywhere else.

Spike from flyi

I think you can become a check airman in the 737 in about a year after new hire. But, that in itself should tell you something.

KrootTheBirdman

Can anyone give me a rough idea of what a 777 schedule works out to be at Southern? Where do you go and how long do you stay there? Where do you start your rotation and where do you end? For example, I live near Hong Kong. Could I start and end there?

sky jet

Kroot,

Try Kalitta. We have guys living in that part of the world.