Atlas Interview on the 16th Jan in Miami
01-20-2017, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Tandem46
There are a lot of problems at Atlas, no question about it. But $35K is not the norm. I just finished my first year and my W-2 shows $63,700. And I DID NOT pick up a single VX trip, although I did get extended involuntarily twice.
Give 3 pilots the same money and there could easily be 3 different views of how much it is.
01-21-2017, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiplash6
That's what RJ pilots make. Are you delusional?
The freight industry hasn't caught up to the new pilot demand contract wise. 60'ish is a realistic first year number, more if you really hump it. I dont believe first year is any better (if much) elsewhere.
01-21-2017, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by WingOffLight
Atlas is a far better place to be than an RJ. FO's have a good history of leaving Atlas for better paying jobs even before an upgrade.
The freight industry hasn't caught up to the new pilot demand contract wise. 60'ish is a realistic first year number, more if you really hump it. I dont believe first year is any better (if much) elsewhere.
The freight industry hasn't caught up to the new pilot demand contract wise. 60'ish is a realistic first year number, more if you really hump it. I dont believe first year is any better (if much) elsewhere.
Of all fking places
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01-24-2017, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by clogher
do you get a PIC type or SIC nowadays in the freight biz.
01-24-2017, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by JonnyKnoxville
If they don't wash out a new hire in training due to the check and intimidate training department, one will walk away to their next job with a type rating. In their defense, it has gotten better but we still have a lot of pilots washing out.
01-24-2017, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by JonnyKnoxville
If they don't wash out a new hire in training due to the check and intimidate training department, one will walk away to their next job with a type rating. In their defense, it has gotten better but we still have a lot of pilots washing out.
01-24-2017, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Rumbold
how many are washing out? any why?
01-24-2017, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by captainv
Seems to come in waves. One bust for a big class seems normal on the 747, but then you'll have a class of 24 where 5-6 bust the ride. Usually it's a bad day (pod strike, stall/spin on the 2-engine approach) combined with unforgiving standards. Bust rate on the 767 is much lower. But we're seeing an increase in people washing out even before the ride because the jet was just too much of a leap for them, and the training department isn't geared to bring them up to speed.
most are coming from regional jets though - is it that much of a leap?
i can see coming from something slower and less complex, but… maybe I'm missing something.
Also, I'm not saying they should keep training people until they pass, but if someone needs an extra sim ride or a re-check on the check ride, wouldn't they be better off doing that instead of washing people out and then complaining they don't have pilots?
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