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Old 07-18-2021, 02:28 PM
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This one is aging well lol….
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Old 07-18-2021, 02:36 PM
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Exactly two: You're running late for check-in after 4 days off. As you adjust your bra, it becomes obvious neglecting to shave will make you look like G.I.Joe in a skirt. So you go with the uniform slacks instead. Do you still wear the bra or thong panties? "Both"
I don't wear a bra, panties, or a thong. Sorry to disappoint.
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Old 07-19-2021, 05:02 AM
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I don't wear a bra, panties, or a thong. Sorry to disappoint.
None of which explains the context of your question counselor. Wasn't answered btw. Not unlike 'both' times you fled Iceberg's challenges in the jury duty thread. Decisions in cases such as this one can have far reaching impact on public and private employers. Fallout from a bathroom ordinance passed in NC ran into billions. Nice thumb.
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Old 07-19-2021, 07:42 AM
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Airlines have enjoyed avoiding many labor/OSHA laws that other employers must comply with since the dawn of the industry. Step by step actions like this will set new precedents that are probably overdue.
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Airlines have enjoyed avoiding many labor/OSHA laws that other employers must comply with since the dawn of the industry.
Won't disagree. 80% hearing loss in one ear. Still rings like crazy though, day & night. 10,000 hours under David-Clark's can do that to you. Where the law mandates protection for workers with common sense measures, great. Where arbitrarily rulings take operational risks or lay down impractical hurdles not specific to essential task requirements, they may compromise majority interest to razor thin arguments of attorney's firing 3 pointers at class action award hoops.
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Old 07-21-2021, 07:44 AM
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Airlines have enjoyed avoiding many labor/OSHA laws that other employers must comply with since the dawn of the industry. Step by step actions like this will set new precedents that are probably overdue.
How do you accommodate a breast-feeding crew member?

Delay the flight?
Divert?
Call out a reserve to depart on time and then pay protect the entire missed 4-day?

That said I'm OK with cockpit breast-feeding in cruise, and don't think male pilots should have the option of denying that based on religious, moral, or personal comfort... it's a natural and necessary biological function and the lav is definitely not the place to do it.
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Old 07-21-2021, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
How do you accommodate a breast-feeding crew member?

Delay the flight?
Divert?
Call out a reserve to depart on time and then pay protect the entire missed 4-day?

That said I'm OK with cockpit breast-feeding in cruise, and don't think male pilots should have the option of denying that based on religious, moral, or personal comfort... it's a natural and necessary biological function and the lav is definitely not the place to do it.
Cockpit breast feeding or breast pumping? It’s a non-trivial difference. And if you weren’t talking about the baby actually being in the cockpit, a VERY non-trivial difference…
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Old 07-21-2021, 09:45 AM
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That said I'm OK with cockpit breast-feeding in cruise, and don't think male pilots should have the option of denying that based on religious, moral, or personal comfort... it's a natural and necessary biological function and the lav is definitely not the place to do it.
That is insane and no way it would pass HR, nor should it.
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Old 07-21-2021, 12:45 PM
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That is insane and no way it would pass HR, nor should it.
Disagree. It's not much different than blowing your nose, and about as sexy as that too.

It's reasonable that you have to let them do it somewhere, operations permitting. The cockpit in cruise is an obvious place and time.

If your personal beliefs create a problem with that, than you probably need a new job. The cockpit is a closer working environment than a cubicle farm, it is what it is. Not too different than the mil in that regards.

However I don't think airlines should have to delay flights, or pay-protect for missed trips... that's a lot of economic damage as well as inconveniencing hundreds of people. Shouldn't cater to ridiculous demands from entitled breastfeeders (or from grown men who are afraid of glimpsing the side of a boob).
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Disagree. It's not much different than blowing your nose, and about as sexy as that too.
Wrong on the first part, and yes there are plenty of guys who do get turned on by it (google it if you dare) -- and no I'm not one of them.

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It's reasonable that you have to let them do it somewhere, operations permitting. The cockpit in cruise is an obvious place and time.
No, a woman exposing her breasts in front of men while the men are supposed to be flying an airplane.... what could POSSIBLY go wrong?

Besides being a distraction, a CRM accident waiting to happen, it would be a HR nightmare.

The reality is that the only place one has privacy on an airplane is in the lav.

Next best option, why not use the rear galley FA seat with one of those covers that go around the neck?
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