propjock13

A 135 rotary wing carrier I flew for 8 years has reported a "written warning" in 2014 with no related documents and no removal from operations. Its showing in the employment history report. Nothing negative is reported anywhere else in my report.

I worked there for another 2 years after the event, resigned to go to another carrier, and it had nothing to do with FARs or OPSPECS violations. It was strictly a personnel relationship issue outside of the cockpit or aviation related duties. I'm in the process of disputing it and contacting the carrier to address it but does anyone know how much leeway employers have in reporting non aviaiton related disciplinary issues and them sticking?

The Advisory Circular pertaining to the PRD states in 2.8.1.3.2 "...However, if an employer determines the inappropriate or wrongful conduct relates to a pilot's responsibilities or completion of the core duties in condcuting safe aircraft operations, it must be included in the PRD in accordance with 111.230."

Also, does anyone think this would be a show stopper when applying for a 121 carrier now?

Thanks in advance.

hercretired

minimal impact as long as you can explain it.

Email/write (check google) the FAA for your "Blue Ribbon Airman File" or similar term. Also send an FOIA request for all records of enforcement, incidents, violations, etc just to check your record

rickair7777

If you can't get it deleted (I'd start with a polite request to an appropriate supervisor over the phone) then see if the employer will agree to give a good reference if contacted. Try to get a LOR from them if you don't already have one.

As long as you overcome such an event, didn't get fired, and remain in good standing with the employer it can be chalked up to a learning moment. Sounds like that's the case, just need to document that and ensure they'll back you up if contacted.

JohnBurke

The only person who can dispute what's in the record is you.

The only person who can enter explanation or comments in the record about that event, is you.

The only person who can rectify it is the employer who entered the record.

You may need to remove their access, and then grant it, to enable them to enter your record to correct it. However, in this case, it sounds like you did indeed receive a warning form that employer, and that is reflected in disciplinary records as a warning.

Unless the warning was subsequently overturned and you had an agreement with the employer to overturn that, at the time, then the employer is within their discretion (and requirement) to report the warning. You indicate that it didn't involve a "OpSpecs or FAR's," but whether it did or not is irrelevant.

You refer to this warning as "non-aviation." Were you not working for an aviation employer, and received a warning from that employer?

propjock13

Yes, I was working for an aviation company but I'm simply looking at the FAA circular that describes what is supposed to be reported and everything there states it has to be related to pilot duties. This absolutely did not. I did what I did but it isn't an aviation infraction so what I'm asking is does anyone have experience with disciplinary issues in the PRD not related to the aviation duties, etc. It was 10 years ago and I even was hired by another 135 company that did a PRIA check then and it didn't show up so I'm just wondering why it was included in the PRD and was only put into it last year. Like I said, I can talk about it. I'm just trying to clean up my record. That's all.

JohnBurke

Which part didn't you understand?

JohnBurke

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https://www.youtube.com/@chrismorris9967

propjock13

Thanks for the insight and links.