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Smash312 06-12-2009 04:04 PM

Has anyone managed to move on since having something (even minor) on PRIA?

Jet Fuel FL410 05-17-2011 08:42 AM

PRIA only goes back 5 years.

wankel7 06-10-2011 05:36 PM

The rules have actually changed. Violations are on your record forever now.

NoyGonnaDoIt 06-12-2011 03:47 AM


Originally Posted by wankel7 (Post 1006503)
The rules have actually changed. Violations are on your record forever now.

Yes. Part of the legislative aftermath of the Colgan crash. The FAA suspended the 5-year policy until they figure out how to handle it.

Belly Flyer 07-02-2011 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 627319)
There is no such thing as a "PRIA Record" (although we might see that soon thanks to colgan).

PRIA is a law which requires some air carriers to keep records, and to furnish them to another employer who is considering you for a pilot job.

An air carrier must obtain your past records when considering you for employment. This will include past aviation employers and your FAA records (plus DOT and NDR). FAA violations will show up, but I do not believe that pink slips will appear although there may be other means of obtaining them (FOIA).

A non-air carrier (part 91) does not have to keep records...but if they do, they must furnish them if asked. Obviously some 91 operators do keep records.

About the five year limit...the PRIA law does not allow you to request or furnish records older than five years. The PRI law prevents past employers from getting sued for providing PRIA records...but if they furnish records older than five years which are NOT required by PRIA, I suspect they could open themselves up to a lawsuit. For that reason I think larger companies would probably not provide more than five years of data. A small company might not have legal staff to provide guidance on this, so a clerk might just photocopy your entire record and mail it (I have seen this at two companies). But if you are talking airlines, it should only go back 5 years.

FAA records will also be reported going back five years...except revocations which are reported forever.

Not sure how far back DOT and NDR records go.

As far as WHAT gets reported...basically any and all training and discipline events related to being a pilot. In the past, non-aviation disciplinary actions were not reported (ie punching your CP in the mouth), but I think that might have changed.

Not entirely correct. Part 91 operators are not required to furnish anything if they choose not to even if they keep records. Most will not because of liability.

rickair7777 07-02-2011 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by Belly Flyer (Post 1016991)
Not entirely correct. Part 91 operators are not required to furnish anything if they choose not to even if they keep records. Most will not because of liability.

Most 91 operators are not required to MAINTAIN any records, but if they do so, they are required to furnish those records if they get a PRIA request. I have seen this in writing more than once, including this AC. Not just idle curiosity on my part, I used to have to respond to those.

http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/0/6682e86bd8291e138625775b006ea3e4/$FILE/AC%20120-68E.pdf

Climbto450 07-07-2011 04:36 PM

Is there any liability if a company provides training records (that may be damaging, such as a failed 135 checkride from more then 10 years ago) that are more then 5 years old but may not be properly maintaned or incomplete. If that airman does not get the job he / she is applying for as a result of these old records is there any liability for the company that provided the old records.

rickair7777 07-08-2011 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by Climbto450 (Post 1019395)
Is there any liability if a company provides training records (that may be damaging, such as a failed 135 checkride from more then 10 years ago) that are more then 5 years old but may not be properly maintaned or incomplete. If that airman does not get the job he / she is applying for as a result of these old records is there any liability for the company that provided the old records.

I think we addressed this in another post, but I would say there might be some liaibility but you would need professional legal advice for sure.

Also...

IMPORTANT UPDATE: The five-year limitation has been removed (colgan fallout) and no longer applies. PRIA record requests will apparently now go back indefinitely. I don't have the details yet, but this is official from my company.

Climbto450 07-09-2011 04:31 PM

I found the section where as of Feb of 2011 the FAA is now required to keep their records for airman forever however I cannot find where companies are mandated to do the same.

skaff 06-23-2014 08:26 AM

So, I just talked to the individual at my company that sends out PRIA info to other airlines when requested. They told me that they only send 5 years of info. Over 5 years ago I had a bad day in the SIM, but according to this 5 year time frame, it won't be included in my PRIA info. Should I self disclose?


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