So my failed Instrument ticket checkride, at age 20, due to my confusion over an NDB hold, in a fixed-card ADF Cherokee, in hot summer Texas weather, over 19 years ago, will not "show up" if a future employer requests PRIA/FAA records ?

Ha! You're not alone brother. I disclosed my instrument rating failure (21 years ago) on my airlineapps profile. I may just take it off now.

Multiple ways to run the scenario. But most would say to simply disclose ANYTHING and EVERYTHING. Whether it was aviation related, or a traffic ticket when you were 16. This has been beat to death like crazy in Delta hiring threads.

But, should you choose to leave it on your app, it can play to your advantage. It will simply make for a great TMAAT story when something didn't go your way, and you learned from it, etc etc etc.

Especially if you've been failure/unsat free since, no blemishes in a 135/121 or military operation, whatever. It makes it a very "safe" topic so to speak.

I think you guys are seriously mistaken. The PRIA rules for employers are not the same for the FAA.

First off, IIRC pink slips are not included in PRIA anyway. However...any company can do a FOIA request and obtain almost everything in your FAA record, except possibly for warning letters which were purged after a period of time. I know some airlines do FOIA requests as a matter of course.

Most do, not all.

I'd have to guess that is correct, but just a guess.

If one was to fail an event that does come with pink slip, the pink itself wouldn't show up on PRIA. Just a failed oral or type ride.

However, that would coincide with the FAA record check of a pink slip pertaining to that event.

Good points, thanks everyone

If you have never done it, it is worthwhile to request your Airman Certification File.

search for: AC Form 8060-68 (10/09)


There is a small charge for the copies.

Does PRIA show 141 training records? For example, if you did all of your training via a 141 school and than you went on to instruct at that school, after earning your CFI, what would be kicked back on a PRIA? Would it just show that you did work there as an instructor or would your past training records be furnished also?

Excellent question. Two answers...

The legally correct answer is that only your employment records (not your student records) should be returned via PRIA.

The real-world answer is that typical 141 operations might have one or zero office staffers who actually know what they're doing, and that person will not be the one responding to PRIA requests. It's entirely possible that your entire student record will get returned as well. BTDT, got the tee-shirt. Equally possible that such a school will not even "get around" to answering PRIA requests (technically illegal but probably not enforced outside of 121).

Non-121 operations are a crapshoot with regards to PRIA.