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Old 01-30-2018, 04:15 AM
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“That's why experts expect it will take at least three decades before fully autonomous commercial planes fly in the United States, even though aircraft already use more advanced autonomous technology than driverless cars.”


Technology will be accepted at a faster rate as time progresses. Look how fast iPads got accepted and approved by the FAA.
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Old 01-30-2018, 06:34 AM
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“That's why experts expect it will take at least three decades before fully autonomous commercial planes fly in the United States, even though aircraft already use more advanced autonomous technology than driverless cars.”


Technology will be accepted at a faster rate as time progresses. Look how fast iPads got accepted and approved by the FAA.
You’re comparing IPADs to the safe operation of an aircraft by a human v. a computer..
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Safety will be the factor that drives the change. For many years, humans have been distrustful of electronics, but todays snowflakes accept tech much more readily. Machines don't get tired, and we've been told that fatigue is a major cause of accidents. Machines do repetitive tasks billions of times without a single mistake, humans not so much. The only question is when it will happen and the intermediate steps to get there.

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Will there ever be an “un-hackable” technology platform out there? One that would assure Billy next door can’t write some code and ride off with 400 people across the Pacific Ocean? I think that would be the show stopper, at least for the foreseeable future.
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Will there ever be an “un-hackable” technology platform out there? One that would assure Billy next door can’t write some code and ride off with 400 people across the Pacific Ocean? I think that would be the show stopper, at least for the foreseeable future.
True,

Can you imagine how many AI flights will be diverted to land in Nigeria and looted minutes after the parking brake is auto-set?
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Originally Posted by Ship741 View Post
Have any UAVs been hacked so far, military or otherwise? Not saying it can't happen but I would imagine multiple layers of defense against that scenario.

It's interesting to me that people often look for perfection in new systems as if the current system was perfect. For example, ive already mentioned fatige, but about simple human mistakes, or even suicide for that matter (has already happened)?
No passenger has been killed on a US Air Carrier since 2009. I think last year globally was zero as well. It is astronomically safe at this point. So completely revamping the system, including its infrastructure, and meeting and beating those odds is a big step.

And even if it were to happen, by that time it will be the least of any pilots concerns. The director of engineering at Google says 2046 for the Singularity. So Doctors, Engineers, Financial Advisors, even coders and actors will be affected.
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You guys are extrapolating the past and thinking technology grows like this:

When in reality it happens like this:


People who are so sure that "anyone alive today" will not see this are likely wrong.
Good ol' Moore's Law.
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Originally Posted by Ship741 View Post
Have any UAVs been hacked so far, military or otherwise? Not saying it can't happen but I would imagine multiple layers of defense against that scenario.

It's interesting to me that people often look for perfection in new systems as if the current system was perfect. For example, ive already mentioned fatige, but about simple human mistakes, or even suicide for that matter (has already happened)?
I have no idea. Didn’t one of the early drones end in Iran’s hands somehow?

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You ain't a real pilot if you haven't shot at least one ADF approach to minimums.
With a procedure turn.

And a timer.
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Originally Posted by Ship741 View Post
Safety will be the factor that drives the change. For many years, humans have been distrustful of electronics, but todays snowflakes accept tech much more readily. Machines don't get tired, and we've been told that fatigue is a major cause of accidents. Machines do repetitive tasks billions of times without a single mistake, humans not so much. The only question is when it will happen and the intermediate steps to get there.

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Safety won’t be the driving factor (unfortunately)..economics will be: IF despite all the regulatory change, legal issues, technological investments and massive infrastructure changes, airline management sees significant profit in going single pilot or unmanned. Oh, not to mention passengers willingly hopping on an airliner flown solely by “George.” Let’s hope airline management is smart enough for the time being.
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Old 02-02-2018, 05:27 AM
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I'm still waiting for the flying cars they've been promising us since the 1950.

Instead we have Alexa to check the weather and play my music and an iPad. Things that were not widely predicted.

It’s Difficult to Make Predictions, Especially About the Future --Mark Twain
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