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Old 02-24-2022 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Stryker172
I fought for America. Where did you serve?
Thank you for your service. Why do you currently hate America?
Old 02-24-2022 | 06:50 PM
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I have a couple of strategery questions.

Do I understand correctly that the United States no longer has tactical nukes?

What will stop Russians from quickly invading and capturing the armaments sent to Ukraine?

What is the long term strategic interest/gain for the United States by getting into a shooting war with Russian troops in Ukraine?

Are we sure this isn’t a wag the dog scenario?

Why didn’t Europe just agree not to make Ukraine a NATO partner? If Mexico build up missile batteries on our southern border would the USA not have a hostile response?

I don’t want a war over this. If they threaten a NATO ally, there are different agreements to abide by. But this? Not so sure it’s in our interest.
Old 02-24-2022 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by flyprdu
Thank you for your service. Why do you currently hate America?
I don't. I love my country. Which is why I don't want to spend any of our money or lives on Ukraine. Amazing how it's always the ones who have never actually been to war who are so gung ho about starting one.
Old 02-24-2022 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by at6d
I don’t want a war over this. If they threaten a NATO ally, there are different agreements to abide by. But this? Not so sure it’s in our interest.
They're not going to war over this. But Russia is already having morale problems with its soldiers, as they truly thought they wouldn't invade their "brethren" nation. This would be the equivalent of the United States invading Canada. It would be hugely demoralizing.

But experts are saying that this invasion is purely a NATO test. He's going to try to test Article 5 somewhere. The next few weeks are going to be critical to de-escalating thing without it spiraling into a major conflict.
Old 02-24-2022 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Stryker172
I don't. I love my country. Which is why I don't want to spend any of our money or lives on Ukraine. Amazing how it's always the ones who have never actually been to war who are so gung ho about starting one.
If you weren't so busy trolling and trying to be cute you might actually understand someone else's position.
Old 02-24-2022 | 07:01 PM
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When Hitler duped Chamberlain with the idea that the Anschluß was the end of his expansion ideas (being that the regions were historically part of the previous borders to WW1), some inside of the Wehrmacht were very much concerned that the expansion would indeed continue.

I can’t help but think Putin is going to try the same thing. Georgia, Crimea, Ukraine, what next…Latvia? Romania? Poland?

China into Taiwan? Egypt, Jordan, Syria into Israel?
Old 02-24-2022 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by at6d
When Hitler duped Chamberlain with the idea that the Anschluß was the end of his expansion ideas (being that the regions were historically part of the previous borders to WW1), some inside of the Wehrmacht were very much concerned that the expansion would indeed continue.

I can’t help but think Putin is going to try the same thing. Georgia, Crimea, Ukraine, what next…Latvia? Romania? Poland?

China into Taiwan? Egypt, Jordan, Syria into Israel?
I think everyone is very much aware that this is the beginning of a possible push into NATO states. Which is why everyone is holding their breaths.

On the plus side:
  • The Ukrainians are putting up a good fight
  • Russians citizens are publicly protesting, at great risk to themselves. This invasion is very unpopular at home.
  • NATO is holding firm and bracing for incursions
  • The Russian economy is tanking at the hint of sanctions
In this game of chicken, Putin has a lot of reasons to flinch.
Old 02-24-2022 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
Tucker Carlson was on TV a couple of days ago basically praising Trump. I don’t get it.
Why not, he did a pretty good job as president. No inflation, good jobs and economy, no wars. What do we have now?
Old 02-24-2022 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by flyprdu
So you're saying that America caused Putin to cross the border with tanks and jets? Man, we are good.

What are you doing in this thread anyway? Don't you have more black pilot programs to attack?
Why do we need black pilot programs? Why not just pilot programs?
Old 02-24-2022 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mikeey69
Why not, he did a pretty good job as president. No inflation, good jobs and economy, no wars. What do we have now?
I think you forgot all of 2020.
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